winning machines

[pah0106]

Sorry....I have to agree with Nancy....The womens 6th sense has brought me more than just a few RF

[Benford's Law]

That must mean that the 2-year streak I had without a royal shows I am a real macho man!~Benford's Law

[pah0106]

You could always put on a pink shirt and a little lip gloss

[EDC1977]

You could always put on a pink shirt and a little lip gloss   Guys wear pink shirts and chap stik I'm not too sure about in the casino though.

[wilsonwilson]

for Shadowman....bartenders can tell you more I think than the slot tech.....I play in agua caliente and the bartender has been there for almos t two years and he says that no one mach seems to stand out... I have played that bar for over a year and I tend to agree with him....I have seen  mostly bonus #s it seems to me.   last week had  4 aces and two hands later a RF....go figure

[palikwihi]

But, if the theory about longterm play is correct, then it shouldnt matter if they are played more or not. Im not saying this, this is what has been said about longterm play. In other words i have to play the cycle and it doesnt matter what machine i play as long as i play for a long time. Otherwise i can sit and watch the machines that are played the most and take a guess when it should be better to play and get the rf. HMMMMMMM

[Eduardo]

It matters how much they are played as far as how many big hits happen there.  Just not percentage-wise. If a machine is played twice as often, it should hit twice as often.  Obviously a machine that sits in the corner with no play will never hit.
 
So watching other people play, yes you could see a machine pay out much more than another over the long term if it is played more.  But when you sit down yourself, your odds are no better at that machine than the one next to it. It is just more likely to hit because you are sitting at it rather than the machine next to you with nobody playing on it.
 
 
Think of it like a lawn mover. You have a Honda and a BrandX.  Which lawn mower will cut the most grass today? The one that you use. If you always used the BrandX, you could say that the BrandX mower cuts a lot more grass than the Honda.  Maybe the Honda is jinxed! But really, it's just a matter of which mower people are using. I'll take the Honda, myself.

[palikwihi]

I dont think i misunderstood Eduardo, you are saying that if i sit and watch a machine being played for ex. 40K hands without a hit, then i will sit and playit because my chances of hitting a RF are much greater because its a machine that is played more than others. And from what i gather from the longterm play is that this shouldnt matter a bit, other words it doesnt matter what machine you play you chance is allways the same. Please correct me if am wrong.

[MikeA]

If I might add a comment here: (I reread your post Palwiki and after rereading it, I think I'm saying the same thing in a much more verbose way)You have no better chance of hitting a RF on a machine that has been played for 40K hands without hitting a Royal than you have of hitting a RF on that hypothetical machine that sits in the corner and never gets played.  You chances are exactly the same because each hand on a RNG VP machine is an independent trial.  What happened in the last hand, or the last 100K hands contributes nothing to what will happen on the next hand.What we are saying about the machine that is giving more Royals than the other machines is that because it is played more, statistically, it is the one that more Royals probably occurred on.I liked Eduardo's analogy best.  If you have 10 machines, and only one of them is ever played, if you look at it historically, it will have more Royals than the ones that are never played simply because those other 9 were never given the chance since they are never played.  Since that machine is getting all the play, it is the one people see the most Royals on.However, as for YOU as an individual, your chances of getting a Royal Flush on one of the "never been played" machines is exactly to YOUR chance of hitting one on the machine that gets all the play.  Well, that's not exactly true I guess.  YOU are most likely to get a Royal on the machine YOU play the most regardless of how much action the machines get that you are not playing <smile>.The RNG is NOT programmed to produce a Royal Flush every 40,000 hands.  It's just that the probability because of the strategy being used for the particular game and the odds on drawing a specific set of cards happens to AVERAGE around once every 40,000 hands.  It could happen that a particular machine could be played for millions of hands and never produce a Royal!

[Eduardo]

No, pali. When you sit down, it doesn't matter what the people before you did. You will have the same odds sitting at a machine that is played a lot or a machine that is not. The people before may have had a good shot at hitting something by playing a lot, but it didn't come up.  That doesn't mean it's more likely to come up for you now that they have left.
Machines being "due" is a myth.
 
Think of the poor machine sitting next to it that nobody has been playing much... it's just as "due."
 
Sit where you want to be comfortable, but don't fool yourself into thinking that machine is any luckier than the one next to it. Luck will fall where it falls.