New game: "Double Big Wheel Poker"

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Jstark
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New game: "Double Big Wheel Poker"

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This game just popped up at the casino here a couple of days ago. I'm not interested in it, but thought I'd share it for others who might. Here are a few pictures of the game header and rules screen. Sorry about them being a bit blurry.
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Post by Jstark »

There wasn't a screen which showed the probability of getting the wheel spin.

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Post by Player422738 »

The probability of getting the wheel spin is under the pop up on the main page under the pay table...

But we can at least know some thing from your screenshots. The wheel on the top shows the following information

Outer wheel: 3 1x, 4 2x, 3 3x, 2 4x
Inner wheel: 5 2x, 5 3x, 2 4x

After the calculation, the average multiplier is 6.42.

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Post by Waiting4RF »

The wheels may be weighted.

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Post by Jstark »

hophoofer wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:10 am
The probability of getting the wheel spin is under the pop up on the main page under the pay table...

But we can at least know some thing from your screenshots. The wheel on the top shows the following information

Outer wheel: 3 1x, 4 2x, 3 3x, 2 4x
Inner wheel: 5 2x, 5 3x, 2 4x

After the calculation, the average multiplier is 6.42.
Thanks. I'll take another look at it tonight. Three are 3 machines.

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Post by Jstark »

Ok, I checked earlier and the average multiplier was 6.05 with a hit rate of 1 in 5.89*

* I didn't get a picture so the ".89" may be incorrect, but the "5.xx" is. I'll check again tomorrow with a picture. The 6.05 is correct though.

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Post by Player422738 »

Jstark wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:15 pm
Ok, I checked earlier and the average multiplier was 6.05 with a hit rate of 1 in 5.89*

* I didn't get a picture so the ".89" may be incorrect, but the "5.xx" is. I'll check again tomorrow with a picture. The 6.05 is correct though.
So the multiplier per hand is
1/5.89 * 6.05 + (1-1/5.89) * 1 = 1.86

However to get multiplier you have to double your wager betting 10 credits per hand, it’s equivalent to get 1.86/2 = 0.93 times betting on 5 credits.

It doesn’t seem to be right because betting more yields a much lower return rate.

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Post by rsactuary »

I played this at South Point and quite liked it. Yes, the Nevada gaming laws say that an extra feature must keep total return the same or better than just the typical VP return, so something is amiss in the numbers above. Clearly the wheels are weighted in some way.

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Post by Player422738 »

If the hit rate is 1 in 5.05, the average multiplier will be 2 times.

The hit rate needs to be greater than 1/5.05 at least.

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hophoofer wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:22 pm
If the hit rate is 1 in 5.05, the average multiplier will be 2 times.

The hit rate needs to be greater than 1/5.05 at least.
I found that game.

The hit rate is 1 in 5.049, which is exactly as what I expected. And average multiplier is 1.000099029510794 per 5 coin bet.

So 9/6 JoB will be 99.55% for max bet. Not too much difference.

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