Something to Think About

The lighter side... playing for entertainment, less concerned about "the math."
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FloridaPhil
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Re: Something to Think About

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onemoretry wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:28 am
FloridaPhil wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:41 am
I am not on this forum to take cheap shots or argue the definition of "long term".
Perhaps that is not your intention, but that is exactly what you do.
I am sorry you feel that way. My concern is with those who are harmed by believing video poker is a profit maker. Your bankroll may grow, but you will suffer in other ways. My father-in-law was a successful businessman. He was also a drunkard. The harm that was done to his family was long lasting. If you valued his worth based on his wealth, you may conclude his life was successful. If you ask the people who lived with him, you would get a different story.

On the Wizard website, I asked some questions about being married to a professional gambler. Some members replied they would ditch a woman if she didn't go along with their career choice. My lawyer tells me when you divorce a woman, they get half if not more of your earnings. Did they factor that into their computer simulations?

I enjoy playing video poker. It does not control me. It does not dictate when I must be at the casino, how long I play or how much money I will risk. When I lose, I don't need mathematics to keep me going. If this sounds a little too heavy, it is. Video poker is gambling. A little gambling is entertainment. Attempting to beat the casino is a prison sentence. If not for the person, the people who are around them.

If you are trying to bait me into being banned again, I will not try to discourage you. This is a serious topic that I feel strongly about. It's not going away.

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I think we need to take a breather. We are all frustrated sitting at home watching our country waste away. There is no one to blame and nothing we can do to fix the problem. After this is over, America will learn some lessons. My hope is we will pull all our manufacturing out of cheap foreign countries and bring it back home where it belongs. The Chinese need to pay for allowing this virus to destroy our way of life.

We should raise worker salaries so people can live without working multiple jobs unless they want to. If the price of a cheeseburger goes up, at least the man behind the counter can feed his kids. This will cause some jobs to be taken over by robots. Someone has to fix the robots.

This may sound like I'm a socialist. I'm not. The America dream is based on capitalism... American capitalism, not Chinese. I don't care who is sitting in the White House next year as long as he/she doesn't destroy that dream

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Phil, I for one am not trying to get you banned again from the forum. But, you are only telling half truths when discussing "how not to lose too much" in casinos. You have spoken here about you learning the value of comps yet you do not tell people that the amount of freeplay will be decreased (if they earn any at all), other comps such as free hotel rooms (which you mistakenly think casinos give these out because they need to fill them) and meals will also be tough to earn, and the other comps that casinos give out. Playing single coin with the occasional "pot shot" as you call it will not earn a player comps.

Now here you go again preaching to other people about HOW they should play when you have stated numerous times that you would stop doing this. You now bring your father-in-law into your posts when it has no bearing on video poker. You are doing this to deflect. You also bring up being married to a professional gambler and divorce. You are doing this to slam Bob Dancer, again. I have a news flash for you: Professional Gamblers are not the only ones who get divorced. Also, I'm sure pre-nups are signed and the amount of earnings lost in a divorce is determined by several factors that you did not even mention. If I were you I'd begin searching for a new lawyer sooner than later.

I asked you yesterday what casino hospitality are people enjoying, at a fraction of the cost, and you did not provide an answer.

I imagine that you are a pretty good guy who means well but you are back to preaching again. You just speak of people taking a breather; you may want to heed your own words.

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4/5/2020 Session Two
Starting Credits - 42,563
Ending Credits - 42063

Decided to try another 500 coin session today after lunch. Hit three sets of quads, 6s, 2s and Qs.

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Post by FloridaPhil »

Tedlark wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:29 am
You now bring your father-in-law into your posts when it has no bearing on video poker. You are doing this to deflect. You also bring up being married to a professional gambler and divorce. You are doing this to slam Bob Dancer, again. I have a news flash for you: Professional Gamblers are not the only ones who get divorced.
My father-in-law was a good example of people who don't take the influences their own life decisions have on others into account. He thought, it's my life and I like drinking, so I can do what I want. The same thing happens with gamblers. You can find the same parallels in professional fishing or auto racing. Widows exist everywhere when someone ignores their family to benefit their own desires. This usually becomes apparent when they call home at 2 AM and their spouse isn't there.

The only reason I mentioned a professional gambler's divorce was they are the people predicting results in advance. Whatever the cost of their divorce, I wonder if it was included in their calculations?

I hope you would agree that no one can predict the future. Bob Dancer once told me I can't predict if I will be here tomorrow. I agree. So how can he predict he will profit from a game he has yet to play? He can't.

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Tedlark wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:29 am
You just speak of people taking a breather; you may want to heed your own words.
I think this is an excellent idea. You are not going to change my mind and I am not going to change yours. There are more things we agree on than disagree. Who wouldn't play the best games they can find when doing so lets you play more hands for your money? Who won't take advantage of comps and incentives as long as it doesn't cost more to earn them than they are worth? Very few players benefit from betting up in denomination. This may be true in a Vegas gas station. In Florida, no way. If the experts would stop selling false hopes, I would be fine with everything they teach. I think it's better to predict there will be a cost to play this game and be surprised if you profit.

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FloridaPhil wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:27 am
If you are trying to bait me into being banned again, I will not try to discourage you.
No, I am not trying to bait you into being banned. Nor do I particularly want to see you banned. But, it seems to me that you are heading down that road without any "baiting" from anyone. If you look back over the list of reasons for the previous banning, you should see what I mean.

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onemoretry wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:28 am
FloridaPhil wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:41 am
I am not on this forum to take cheap shots or argue the definition of "long term".
Perhaps that is not your intention, but that is exactly what you do.
Definitely the latter. The long term varies on what games paytables are played, but statistics can help predict how likely you'll be ahead/behind over a set period time. For example, if someone did something like vulturing Ultimate X for 500 hours in a typical casino that I visit, the chances of he/she being ahead are so close to 100% that I would bet every dime I had that he/she would be ahead after 500 hours.

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Post by FloridaPhil »

All I can do is tell you how I play video poker and why I do it. I answered all of Ted's questions as best I could. You have to find what works for you.

Teaching people there is only one right way to play video poker is like telling someone you have never spoken to that buying annuities is the only way to invest. Before you teach anyone about how they should play the game, you should ask about the games they have available to them, the comps they are offered, their bankroll, skill level and tolerance for losing. You ask them how they would feel if they went years without a royal. There is much more to these decisions than math.

Our country went through numerous Gold Rushes. The California Gold Rush in 1848 was the largest mass migration in US history. A few people found gold, most did not. The people who benefited most were the land salesman and those selling shovels to the miners. In today's video poker, unless you own the casino or are selling shovels, you will eventually pay to play.

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4/6/2020 Session One
Starting Credits - 42,063
Ending Credits - 41,563

Another day in TDB Land. No quads.

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