Something to Think About

[onemoretry]

That website has some members who are current APs. They understood my questions and were willing to answer every question I had honestly and without negativity.

Contrary to your statement here, and assuming you are the person who was posting as SingleCoinVP, I certainly could detect a lot of negativity towards you in many of the discussions.

[FloridaPhil]

Contrary to your statement here, and assuming you are the person who was posting as SingleCoinVP, I certainly could detect a lot of negativity towards you in many of the discussions.

I certainly didn't take it that way. There are always jerks around who are waiting to pounce on anything they don't agree with. I found that forum much more informative than this one. I find this forum more entertaining. That website is less concerned with selling people on obsolete ideas and more about surviving actual casino conditions.

Why anyone needs more information about playing positive games is beyond me. Playing positive games perfectly with an unlimited bankroll is not new. The problem comes when you go to the casino and can't find those games. Even if you do, the casino will penalize you for playing them.

As far as getting a casino to pay you to play is concerned, I wish you luck. That my friend is pure fantasy. As soon as someone figures out how to do that, the rules change.

So why are we playing these games? Some are living a fantasy that they can beat the casino in time. That's fine, whatever floats your boat. Some, like me, want to be entertained. We will take everything the casino is willing to give us, but we don't want to overpay for it.

[FloridaPhil]

4/10/2020 Session one

Starting Credits - 46,263
Ending Credits - 45,763

Quad 9s.

[onemoretry]

I certainly didn't take it that way. There are always jerks around who are waiting to pounce on anything they don't agree with. I found that forum much more informative than this one. I find this forum more entertaining. That website is less concerned with selling people on obsolete ideas and more about surviving actual casino conditions.

Are you really saying that a person who disagrees with you is automatically a jerk? It sure seems that way.

And, what is this nonsense about "selling people" on obsolete ideas? Can you be more specific, or will you continue spewing out generalities?

[FloridaPhil]

Are you really saying that a person who disagrees with you is automatically a jerk? It sure seems that way.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. If everyone thought the same it would be a pretty boring world. There is a difference between disagreeing with someone and making personal attacks.

Conversation is only valuable if it means something to those who participate in the subject discussed. I have no interest in advice on how to beat the casino. For me, this is never going to happen. I have a significant interest in how to gain more comps without paying too much for them. I have shown that quarter players can obtain room, food and free play comps. I want to talk about setting limits and sticking to them. I would like to talk about the best times to play bigger and to play smaller. There are many other things we could talk about on this forum that would actually help players.

Sitting in a casino feeding money into a video poker machine waiting for math to make you a winner is not a productive use of your time. It only benefits casino owners and those who profit from selling those ideas to players. Casino owners are entitled to profit from their investments. I want them to remain open. I do not wish to pay them more than I need to.

At this time, the casinos are closed. We are all equal. When the casinos reopen for business, you will be making some decisions. Will you continue to play like you have an advantage when you don't or will you adjust your play to limit your losses? It's your money.

[FloridaPhil]

4/10/2020 Session two

Starting Credits - 45,763
Ending Credits - 45,263

Quad 9s again.

[onemoretry]

And, what is this nonsense about "selling people" on obsolete ideas? Can you be more specific, or will you continue spewing out generalities?

Asked, but not answered.

[onemoretry]

Are you interested in being more specific here, and identifying the "beat the casinos" books and CDs you are referring to?

And, a previous asked, but not answered.

[FloridaPhil]

And, a previous asked, but not answered.

I own a large stack of video poker strategy books and three copies of VPW software. Without naming names, I will say that most every video poker strategy book I own has one theme, you can make money playing the game. The author's claim this is done by a combination of playing near positive games perfectly and comps. Where we play video poker, near positive games at a denomination we are comfortable playing do not exist. Our comps are never large enough to overcome the game's odds. Cash back is something that comes with my American Express card. It's never offered in our casinos.

I suspect many people who visit this forum are faced with a similar situation. We don't hear from them because they are either afraid to post or are still waiting for their profit to materialize. So what would you like us to do? If everyone who plays negative games took the expert's advice and stayed home, video poker would no longer be offered. The few people left who only play positive games would have nothing to play.

The vast majority of video poker players do not expect the casino to pay their bills. They wish only to be entertained. Those players would like an expert to help them get more value for their money. There are experts like Jean Scott who understand this. Our expert caters to players who are beating their heads against the wall trying to duplicate the expert's claimed results. Those players hang around this forum and defend that strategy so they can justify their own play.

There are two main forums on this website, one is called the Strategy Forum. That name is not accurate because there is only one expert with one strategy allowed. The other forum is the Recreational Forum. When I asked for this forum many years ago, I envisioned it as a place where so small time players could discuss small time issues. Unfortunately, the strategy police have turned it into a shooting gallery for members who think recreational video poker is a waste of time.

Time and time again when I was challenged, I have provided proof to back up my statements. I was told CS was dangerous. I posted photos to prove it was profitable. I was told I lied when I said we receive offers from casinos for playing quarters. I posted photos of those offers. I said luck was a bigger influence on results than skill. My current score on this website is nine times a royal and I am not the most skilled player on Earth. I even offered to pay anyone who could show me a positive game at my casino $100. What I got was a one hand opportunity, but I paid out the money anyway. What proof has anyone ever posted that verified any person ever made a long term profit by playing only positive games?

Ted got it right today. There is a lot of BS on this forum and it's not coming from me.

[Tedlark]

Phil our tennis match is starting to bore me. At first it was mildly amusing but it has morphed into you revolving the same information over and over again.

You say that CS was profitable to you. As a seasoned investor that you claim to be: why would you NOT use the CS anymore it you were profiting from it? That makes zero sense (or should I be saying "that makes zero cents?").

You have previously stated that you "get offers from all over the country." I reserve judgement based on your picture. I know, I know, you said that you chose only a small sampling. Did you pick the most photogenic ones?

Your post of Friday April 10, 2020 4:54 am, you edited it six times? SIX TIMES? You definitely need to get an achievement badge for that!