Bizarro World 2023

[asteroid]

Note that at Mohegan, you can only cash out your free play after you bet it. Any winnings along the way, you are able to cash out.

WE just found this out today. Now I need to find a slot that pays any ideas?

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Find some IGT machines that have both VP and slots loaded on the same machine and do some experimentation . . .

[olds442jetaway]

Thanks tried that. No dice. The poor pay table machines still give points you can spend, but it’s not worth it at 500 bucks coin in for one dollar or one point.

[tech58]

Thanks tried that. No dice. The poor pay table machines still give points you can spend, but it’s not worth it at 500 bucks coin in for one dollar or one point.

Wildmans screen shot of the change for VP was interpreted, by us, to bar USING FP or Points$ on Video poker machines not EARNING.
But after rereading it several times I am not so sure. Sure hope I am wrong but it says, ..."not an option"... but the word play is NOT specified!
If the comps for VP were to be eliminated that as good as being banned!
Do you have that kind of thing on some machines at MS?

[olds442jetaway]

There is a tiny sign on the machines with the better paytables that reads…this machine does not pay Momentum dollars. They do earn tier points though.

[tech58]

There is a tiny sign on the machines with the better paytables that reads…this machine does not pay Momentum dollars. They do earn tier points though.

Weekly free play that you earn by playing VP can be played on any VP machine?
For our situation the probable change is no playing of any form of premium play on any VP machine.
Very slim chance of the worst case being earning no comps for VP play.
Will find out tomorrow.

[dinghy]

For our situation the probable change is no playing of any form of premium play on any VP machine.
Very slim chance of the worst case being earning no comps for VP play.

I agree. My interpretation is they want their disclaimer to be cautiously complete. If they were eliminating point earning for VP, it would be stated differently.

Here in NV, sometimes particular machines will be excluded from slot play redemption. For instance I recall at the D, you couldn't redeem at the Vue bar 3-way progressives. But you could redeem nearby at the royal-only progressives.

Assuming they successfully restrict all the VP without missing any, you may still have options other than slots. Electronic table games, for example.

[tech58]

Thanks for good tip on the electronic table games Regular table games probably not because they have no restricted play chips (we called them "funny money" on junkets years ago).
I guess it's also possible some poor pay-table games may be still available.
Will find out tomorrow.

[olds442jetaway]

As of now, free play can be used for all vp machines at Mohegan Sun. I am going up there solo tonight. I plan to work on my bet one paying better theory. I actually hope that is not the case unless it pays over 100 percent. So for 2023, it has. I know it is crazy, but why can I always stay just about even playing Frugal Vp for fun and yet lose tens of thousands a year at the casino playing the same games and same paytable. I would say bad luck or coincidence except this has been going on more than 25 years and probably 15-20 million hands.

[olds442jetaway]

So far my bet one theory is holding tonight. My wife had 10 in free play. Played 40 hands. Cashed out 14.50including can you believe it 4 Aces on JOB. Mine was ok too. 20 in free play. Cashed out 20.50 in 80 hands. No quads but 3 full houses.
Got here late. So far, just played this, caught a bite and checked in. Report back more later or tomorrow morning.

[advantage playe]

I m still at the bizzar Olds. almost 2 weeks and up due to 2 quads in 2 min. at pickem for 1200, overall up apx. 900. maybe see you at the pickem sky, or job slant sky,or earth pickem. So I,m ahead! Ahead of who ?? to get philosophical . no way i spelled that correctly.