RNG question ???

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ash190
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Re: RNG question ???

Post by ash190 »

Man, that does sound sketchy. If so many folks are noticing weird patterns like that, it's worth questioning the RNG in Ultimate X... Seems like there might be something fishy going on.

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Post by dinghy »

ash190 wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:29 am
Man, that does sound sketchy. If so many folks are noticing weird patterns like that, it's worth questioning the RNG in Ultimate X Seems like there might be something fishy going on.
The opposite.

If so many "folks" are unable to make a coherent argument, I conclude there's nothing fishy going on.

Please point me back to anything compelling in this thread. I can give you numerous examples of absurdities, if you want to discuss it.

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Post by asteroid »

Odds of this happening on a fair machine:
Let P'=1/(47choose2)
Now make order of cards important so Let P=5!*P'=120*P'
So chance of this event is (10choose8)*P^8*(1-P)^2
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Post by Webman »

Edited: I thought this photo might have been edited, but I'm not sure why someone would take the time in this case.

Is that your photo or did you find it somewhere else on the internet?

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Post by onemoretry »

Webman wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 10:37 am
... did you find it somewhere else on the internet?
I've seen it on another site. I don't know if you'd want me to name it, or not.

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Post by Webman »

Sure.

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Post by onemoretry »

Wizard of Vegas - thread "How Unusual is this?'

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Post by Webman »

Amending my post above. I initially thought the photo might have been altered, but I really don't know why someone would take the time. Likely there is another answer, though I'd love to see the original full size photo to be sure.

As people noted on the Wizard, there could be a mechanical reason for this as well since the user says they had just placed their money into the machine and this is not a draw that they experienced themselves. There are a lot of unknowns here as far as the sequence of events/menus that preceded this photo. I suspect it was NOT an actual draw that was performed given the odds as stated above. But I'd have to sit down at an actual machine and try some behaviors to see what else could possibly lead to this.

I'll ask around and see what I can find out.

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Post by Tedlark »

And I thought that I was the only one accused of doctoring pictures, lol.....

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Post by asteroid »

didigoftam wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 4:23 pm
I see your point. Believe me, Single play Ultimate X Deuces Wild, after getting a four of a kind, 7X shows up for the next hand. I have never ever ever ever gotten dealt a hand on the 7X. I made a point of having my. friend keep track for 8 sessions. Never ever we got anything. I know Math and Calculus, and Im a UCLA graduate. So i understand odds, this game is Rigged, i will go to my grave with this statement.
It's a thing of beauty when you hit a good hand with a big multiplier on UX (especially when the multipliers are vultured like this hit).
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