DDB Ultimate X

[olds442jetaway]

I think I finally am getting the message. Somehow on my 9/6 99 percent games, I am still losing 19 out of 20 trips. The Mrs playing nickel DDB Ultimate X 3 line 8/5 for the entire year has stayed even or won 9 out of 10 trips.
Anyway, I’m going up tonight to try it same exact game. Can’t get better than 8/5 on nickels. Just a few quick strategy questions. I notice a straight has a nice multiplier. Does the gang or the math say to draw to an inside straight when you have nothing else? On 2 pair when one is Aces, do you just keep the Aces? When dealt 3 Aces, do you keep the Aces and a kicker, or just the Aces? Thanks. I think on all three of these scenarios, the Mrs may go against the grain, yet she has an excellent track record.
She also says the only thing that makes her win in a long session is a nice hit with multipliers. I have posted many of those hits on my thread in the Rec forum. Thanks again. Her track record is over about 60 trips. Not a huge sample but sure beats what I am doing.

[Tedlark]

Good luck to you both, olds.

Keep the straight.
Keep the two pair.
Keep the kicker.

Just my opinion.

Keep on truckin...

[dinghy]

I notice a straight has a nice multiplier. Does the gang or the math say to draw to an inside straight when you have nothing else? On 2 pair when one is Aces, do you just keep the Aces? When dealt 3 Aces, do you keep the Aces and a kicker, or just the Aces?

If you want to play "by the book," you have a bunch of strategy adjustments to contend with. Straight and flush draws both go up in value because of the big next-hand multiplier potential.

Inside straight draws are definitely playable. 3 to a flush is a common hold, especially with high card(s) included.

2 pair always outranks 1 pair.

Discard the kicker when holding AAA.

I think I agreed with Ted until that last one .

[olds442jetaway]

Thanks guys. Heading up late. Will post tomorrow sometime.

[Tedlark]

I notice a straight has a nice multiplier. Does the gang or the math say to draw to an inside straight when you have nothing else? On 2 pair when one is Aces, do you just keep the Aces? When dealt 3 Aces, do you keep the Aces and a kicker, or just the Aces?

If you want to play "by the book," you have a bunch of strategy adjustments to contend with. Straight and flush draws both go up in value because of the big next-hand multiplier potential.

Inside straight draws are definitely playable. 3 to a flush is a common hold, especially with high card(s) included.

2 pair always outranks 1 pair.

Discard the kicker when holding AAA.

I think I agreed with Ted until that last one .

I'm too used to TDB, lol.

[New2vp]

A strategy that ignores the current multipliers on the board would have 2 pair always better than a pair of aces, because it is much easier to get a full house from 2 pair and that 12x bonus on the next hand is very appealing. And it is quite difficult to play a strategy that includes both penalty cards AND the multiplier level.

However, this is one place that I would recommend taking current hand multipliers into consideration.
E.g., with AAJJT and the sum of the 3 multipliers at 12x or higher (like 4,4,4; or 10, 1, 2), you get an edge by holding only the aces. Count hands without a multiplier as having a multiplier of 1.

The cutoff point goes up if you have 2 or 3 kickers in the dealt hand. E.g., with AA226, the sum of multipliers needs to be at least 13x to hold the pair of aces. And with AA334, the sum must be at least 14x.

In regular DDB, you don’t flinch and hold only the pair of aces because of the big payouts THIS HAND on quad aces, with or without the kicker. In Ultimate X, it is most often advantageous to hold both pair and hope for a big payout NEXT HAND.

If you follow the strategy that considers the current multipliers, you can blend a little of both worlds in a way that is favorable to your chances. (Warning: the cutoffs above are based on 8/5 DDB Ultimate X and will likely differ for other games or pay schedules.)

[olds442jetaway]

Thanks as well New2 Vp. Appreciate the extra insight. I’ll just screenshot that and keep with me. . My session last knight didn’t go well, but that’s the nature of vp. In 6 hours, I only got 2 quads. Tens and 6’s. No multipliers. Quite a few full houses, but I couldn’t connect for the most part on the 12x. . I should leave this to the Mrs. She’s got a 90 percent success rate for the year.