Why is HE speaking to Casino Execs?

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EDC1977
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Re: Why is HE speaking to Casino Execs?

Post by EDC1977 »

EDC,
 How can he speak through me?  And this site boasts 140,600+ members...and none of them have PM'd me...they email me at my email address...(which I, unlike most here, am happy to disclose in my profile) I won't keep my play private like some others prefer to do here...I'll be an open book and tell you anything you want to know...(very much like my friend).

Peace,
Joe
You offer, which is the same as selling. Your words and defense of someone not here because he abused his priveleges are testimony of him channeling through you. One visit to that website will prove my point as many things your best friend writes there, you post here, almost verbatim. as i originally posted though, you made your sales pitch, they know your website, give it a rest and let it be. BTW, only 22K plus are forum members, not the multi thousands that use this site just to play VP and keno.
 I guess y'all don't have adware, spyware and identity theft in your neck of the woods. i don't care to post or offer my web address to total strangers because I don't care to be changing it all the time. Business websites are equally vulnerable despite excellent software packages.

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Post by shadowman »

Good points Ed. Most people aren't trying to sell something. Joe, clearly is trying to sell his buddy. It's been obvious from the start. First he tried to claim his approach was better, and then, after the mathematics demonstrated he was wrong, he has tried other approaches. Finally, he has tried to link Dancer's dealings with casinos to AP.
 
It is obvious that Joe is selling even as he denies it time and again.
 
No one needs Joe's buddy. He has nothing to offer. If someone wants to play a progression, then all they need to do is decide on the game, the denoms, a win goal and number of credits played at each level. It's that simple. No one needs to be "educated".
 
Here's an example. Play .25/.50/1 denoms. Play 10/6 DDB. Set a win goal at $500. Play 400 credits at each level. See, it's very easy. No special plays, no fooling around changing denoms all the time. This will increase session wins and not improve or reduce overall expectation.

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Post by rolanddude »

Shadow,The last paragraph of your last post is why I came here.  Just to ask about this way of play...Not to be bombarded because of who my friends are.  After all, it took a long time to even convince you that I wasn't an alias or fraud myself.  Webman had to clear that up for everyone...You said it all for "Short Termers" that don't have all year or that can't play when they want...by playing a progressive betting strategy..."This will increase session wins and not improve or reduce overall expectation."  It is the session wins on short trips that we are after...our risk per session would be the same, progression or not.  Instead of playing only because we are in Vegas or elsewhere just to see how we can do for a little while for entertainment or just for fun, we set a goal and then try to achieve it.  Just a different path than you take...because we don't have the time you do....Joe

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Post by shadowman »

Joe, if this is why you came then why all the other nonsense? ARTT is a joke. Why even mention Dancer? Even referencing your buddy is unneeded. From your own postings I am well aware of your true motives. Don't try and dance around it now.
 
BTW, If you wanted to know how to improve your session wins you could have come here and asked. There is no magic. Martingale progressions have been around for years. There is nothing new in the how progressions operate.
 
Finally, claiming sessions wins "are what we are after" seems a bit strong. I believe most people are "after" enjoyment. That includes far more than just session wins. It may also include avoiding large losses which is exactly what happens when a progression fails.

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Post by royal flush »

you are just trying to chase losses by doubling your bets this is dangerous as a bad streak can make your las vegas trip one that will haunt you for the rest of your life

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Post by oej719 »

Pianoman is full of good jokes. The Dangerfield of vp.

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Post by cddenver »

You said it all for "Short Termers" that don't have all year or that can't play when they want...by playing a progressive betting strategy..."This will increase session wins and not improve or reduce overall expectation."
 
Joe, in your own examples of session results you emphasize the dollars won in those particular sessions, not the high session winning percentage that you're stating now.  That's because your mentor knows what sells, and that's the hope for more dollars, not for a few more session wins of minimal amounts.  If SM and New2vp hadn't tripped you up on that approach, you'd still be talking dollar benefits.

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Post by oej719 »

Pianoman says " I get no respect" (while loosening his collar.

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Post by Eduardo »

Here are some of my past casino session results:
4 hands played: +$100 (win)

2 hands played: +$25 (win)
1750 hands played: -$135 (lose)
100 hands played: +17.00 (win)
32 hands played: +$7.50 (win)
1874 hands played: -$400 (lose)
12 hands played: +$50 (win)
1 hand played: +$1.25 (win)
250 hands played: +$2.00 (win)
149 hands played: +$15.00 (win)
 
 
That's an 80% win rate. Read 'em and weep, boys.
 
Granted, it was all in the same trip. But I had a lot of session wins and this proves that the way I was playing was, quite humbly, awesome.

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Post by faygo »

Here are some of my past casino session results:
4 hands played: +$100 (win)

2 hands played: +$25 (win)
1750 hands played: -$135 (lose)
100 hands played: +17.00 (win)
32 hands played: +$7.50 (win)
1874 hands played: -$400 (lose)
12 hands played: +$50 (win)
1 hand played: +$1.25 (win)
250 hands played: +$2.00 (win)
149 hands played: +$15.00 (win)
 
 
That's an 80% win rate. Read 'em and weep, boys.
 
Granted, it was all in the same trip. But I had a lot of session wins and this proves that the way I was playing was, quite humbly, awesome.
And to think you only lost $217.25. That is awesome . WTG
Next time do the adding so I don't have to get out the calculator. Thanks

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