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[EDC1977]

You mean liquor made that look on him? Wow!

[oej719]

That was not water, vodka or gin maybe.

[royal flush]

the way this market keeps going we will join him drink up djia 6594

[cddenver]

the way this market keeps going we will join him drink up djia 6594
 
Make mine a double.  Ouch.

[EDC1977]

Where's that darn OEJ when you need him?  Gulp Gulp

[redleg]

Rolanddude - your post of 5 Mar was well put.  Agree with all you said.  This forum seems to be a place for those people to rank and rave about people who don't agree with them.  Some people just don't like success in other people.

[cddenver]

Rolanddude - your post of 5 Mar was well put.  Agree with all you said.  This forum seems to be a place for those people to rank and rave about people who don't agree with them.  Some people just don't like success in other people.
 
Redleg, since you feel that rolanddude's views on VP are good ones that will lead to success, PM him for more info.  It might take a while to get a response since he's told us that many people have been writing to him for additional information.  After you've tried it for 30 sessions or so get back to us and tell us if you agree with him.   He'd recommend that you try it on a simulation like VPFW as he does rather than real machines, since he's leaning towards the view that the real machines are rigged.  I'd be curious to find out how they work in a casino and not just on a PC.
 
Your sentiment would be much more appropriate if it were turned around and sent back to RD.   His tests have been poor ones slanted to support his own views on the $ benefits of such play, and when flaws in the specific tests and shortcomings in the basic approach have been pointed out he defends them the same way his mentor does - with bluff, bluster, and rhetoric. 

[rolanddude]

OEJ, your obvious obsession with the man..."I know his real name, I have watched him play without him knowing. I have met and talked to him many many times..." is kind of disturbing and pitiful to many who read these threads.  No other person that I have talked to that has met the man believes a single word you say.  They all just know that you are a frustrated  player that wanted so badly to find a way to win, but because of your unwillingness to risk a proper bankroll for any of the strategies you were like a fish out of water.Everytime I met the man I saw NO EVIDENCE of what you say or claim.  It is SO UNBELIEVABLE that you are the only person here or otherwise that claims anything like what you do after meeting him for a FREE tutoring session(s).  (Upon recalling the dinners he TREATED ME TO at PF Changs , he really enjoys eating healthy Asian foods with hot tea as the beverage of choice.  I have ONLY seen him drink water any other time in or out of the casinos!!) And by the way...What Scam?  There is nothing sold and nothing gained from all of this by anyone...Your claim about the comp card is totally unfounded and is in no way backed up by ANYONE else that has been taught by him first hand.If what you say is true about you "stalking" the man by sneaking around and watching him play and knowing so much about him and his "past"  as you say,  then what does that say about YOU?  Obsessed? (refer to your signature on your posts)  You have contributed nothing but belching, lies, and tough talk in any of your posts...Again I ask you straight up...What do you have on the man that requires you to be so caught up by him that you can't let it go?   If your previous post is all you've got then it falls short of any reasonable person's requirements for someone to be judged a fraud.  Seems that YOU are the only person that has this "first handed"opinion of him...wonder why?  Another poster here said he saw him from a distance in Laughlin and he looked "dazed", well, so does Nancy Pelosi and others in Congress  that is no measure of a man! ...I would contend that when you are on your little spy missions you look "Star-Struck".  But this is just my opinion of you based on an obvious pattern that you have established here on videopoker.com...I would extend an olive branch out to you also (like I did to Tedlark) but I don't want you to take it the wrong way and begin stalking me on my trips out there...Joe
Anything above that you disagree with CDdenver?  Thanks Redleg for your obvious astuteness in being able to read between the lines of the regulars in this forum...A true "little boys" club here...

[shadowman]

Rolanddude - your post of 5 Mar was well put.  Agree with all you said.  This forum seems to be a place for those people to rank and rave about people who don't agree with them.  Some people just don't like success in other people.

 
Sorry, but you have it all wrong. If you've read over many threads in the forum you will the regulars continually congratulate any and everyone who has reported success. You statement is just plain wrong.
 
As for those promoting a method of play that is mathematical nonsense ... then, yes, you will see the regulars will not agree with that approach. The math behind VP is simple and anyone claiming that math somehow doesn't work is going to be criticized.
 
Personally, I have no problem with people playing any which way they want. Poor players allow casinos to keep better games which is an advantage to me.  However, when they try to promote a method of play as "better" than the best mathematical approach they better be prepared to back up those claims with more than a couple of VPfW sessions.
 

[redleg]

I'll be in Vegas next week and report my results when I get back.  Yes, the math is important - but so is luck!  You can't apply the math if you don't get the cards.