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An open offer to Fa La La La La.... La la la la
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oej719
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Re: An open offer to Fa La La La La.... La la la la
I don't. Heck he uses so many different alias's it would be hard to follow anyway. Oops I probably should not say that because he will cry out that I am hurting his reputation.
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New2vp
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I would still not make such a bet except for small stakes. There is an old saying that if someone is willing to make an unreasonably large wager that on the next turn of a card he can make the jack of clubs jump out of the deck and squirt you in the eye with blue dye, don't call him on it.If someone is willing to bet something that crazy and he is not crazy himself, there might be an angle that you haven't yet thought of.For a couple hundred, you might bet him if he's willing to reveal how he did the trick, but not for a couple hundred thousand. But then again, I have never made a living at gambling, so have it at. He may just be bluffing.
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New2vp
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I don't. Heck he uses so many different alias's it would be hard to follow anyway. Oops I probably should not say that because he will cry out that I am hurting his reputation. Yes, but under what name will such a claim be made?!
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cddenver
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I would still not make such a bet except for small stakes. There is an old saying that if someone is willing to make an unreasonably large wager that on the next turn of a card he can make the jack of clubs jump out of the deck and squirt you in the eye with blue dye, don't call him on it.
That's true, but what mickey described would involve 1,000 flips, not just one. Let's put on our "thought experiment" hats. RS's 40% flip rate is reported to be from simply observing 1-card draws from his testing, perhaps during the testing he's found some way to control the "flip" card, and isn't just reporting results from unrandom machines. It doesn't make much sense to me to look for ways to have cards come up that don't lead to winning hands, but perhaps that's all he's found. So he's going to use this info he's been putting out to entice serious players into big money challenges. In a hypothetical case like that, a challenger would indeed be in for a nasty surprise - that's the kind of situation you described, right? One you'd invest small money in to see how the "trick" is done, but not bet the farm? That's understandable caution.
I wouldn't put much weight in a theory like that, as it would only work once. The losing challenger would certainly post details on whatever RS was doing during the session to control flips, and there wouldn't be much in the way of repeat business.
I think the safest bet () is what mickey stated - that RS knows how he'd do in any such challenge, so he'd put some silly conditions on them to make sure they'd never be accepted.
That's true, but what mickey described would involve 1,000 flips, not just one. Let's put on our "thought experiment" hats. RS's 40% flip rate is reported to be from simply observing 1-card draws from his testing, perhaps during the testing he's found some way to control the "flip" card, and isn't just reporting results from unrandom machines. It doesn't make much sense to me to look for ways to have cards come up that don't lead to winning hands, but perhaps that's all he's found. So he's going to use this info he's been putting out to entice serious players into big money challenges. In a hypothetical case like that, a challenger would indeed be in for a nasty surprise - that's the kind of situation you described, right? One you'd invest small money in to see how the "trick" is done, but not bet the farm? That's understandable caution.
I wouldn't put much weight in a theory like that, as it would only work once. The losing challenger would certainly post details on whatever RS was doing during the session to control flips, and there wouldn't be much in the way of repeat business.
I think the safest bet () is what mickey stated - that RS knows how he'd do in any such challenge, so he'd put some silly conditions on them to make sure they'd never be accepted.
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Webman
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Like I said previously, such bets have been made by and to Mr Fa La La La La.... La la la la regarding his strategies in the past but always fell apart for various reasons. That is why this was intentionally an offer and not a bet. Nothing to lose, and insight to gain.
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EDC1977
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His knowing of a risk of ruining what little reputation he has is reason enough for him to no-show. I only know of him but very self centered and cynical. Would be nice for him to not back out and go through with the experiment. Show a little backbone rob.
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mickey crimm
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[QUOTE=oej719]What stipulations? Share them with us. We all need a big laugh.[/QUOTE
STIPULATIONS
1. Rob gets to choose the time, location, and the machine.
2. Rob wants to know where the escrow will go and how much.
3. His opponents must set up a downpayment fund at his LV publisher's
office 4 weeks prior to the event.
4. He wants the event filmed in case a movie is made about him after
he retires.
5. No drinking within 24 hours of the event.
6. He wants the real names of those involved 6 weeks prior to the event.
STIPULATIONS
1. Rob gets to choose the time, location, and the machine.
2. Rob wants to know where the escrow will go and how much.
3. His opponents must set up a downpayment fund at his LV publisher's
office 4 weeks prior to the event.
4. He wants the event filmed in case a movie is made about him after
he retires.
5. No drinking within 24 hours of the event.
6. He wants the real names of those involved 6 weeks prior to the event.
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mickey crimm
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I can tell you now that this proposition bet will never go off. The parties involved know Rob's history when it comes to proposed proposition bets, they just never happen. If they were to jump thru hoops and cover the stipulations listed so far, Rob will just come with more stipulations, and if they then cover those stipulations, Rob will just come with more.
And they don't even know if Rob has the money to lose.
Escrow? Downpayment fund? What a joke. This is gambling? Gambling don't work like that. You bring your money into the casino and put it on the table, or the cage if you prefer, and go to gambling. There's no red tape. Rob is creating the red tape to get the other party to knock off trying to get him to accept the proposition. Then Rob will claim victory. But make no mistake, Rob does not intend to put his money on the line, if he has any, on the fifth card flip.
And they don't even know if Rob has the money to lose.
Escrow? Downpayment fund? What a joke. This is gambling? Gambling don't work like that. You bring your money into the casino and put it on the table, or the cage if you prefer, and go to gambling. There's no red tape. Rob is creating the red tape to get the other party to knock off trying to get him to accept the proposition. Then Rob will claim victory. But make no mistake, Rob does not intend to put his money on the line, if he has any, on the fifth card flip.
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Webman
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Mickey, betting aside, do you think he will go through with my free offer?
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mickey crimm
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Mickey, betting aside, do you think he will go through with my free offer?
You know, I really don't know. But even if he does show if you are playing only an hour or two he has some routes. In a short sample space there is a small chance things could go his way. In which case he will tout it up. If things don't go his way he can claim that the sample space is to small to get an accurate picture.
You know, I really don't know. But even if he does show if you are playing only an hour or two he has some routes. In a short sample space there is a small chance things could go his way. In which case he will tout it up. If things don't go his way he can claim that the sample space is to small to get an accurate picture.
