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Offer to Fa La La La La.... La la la la: Results (5th card flip)
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oej719
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Re: Offer to Fa La La La La.... La la la la: Results (5th card flip)
He is just a shill for rs. rs never proves anything and this guy will not either. Can't prove what never happened. When all else fails then lie, seems to be all the shills moto. They think just because they pee in the pool that everyone will get out. What are they smoking?
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cddenver
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A lesson for future reflections. Post very little and let the next argument be handled by another reflection. The more you post, the more likely it is for you to blow your own cover.
I didn't have anything to add to your post, but thought that I'd quote one of the latest alias' posts before he went back and changed it, as he's done with a few others in this thread.
Note I've never met, talked with, emailed or corresponded with Webman, Fa La La La La.... La la la la, or any one else here to my best knowledge.
Interesting qualifier that you have on the end of the statement that I've quoted. It's not very difficult for anyone to make a definitive statement as to whether or not they've ever had any of the interactions you mentioned with specific individuals, especially in the recent past. I'll give a few examples.
I have never met, talked with, emailed or corresponded with President Obama.
I have met, talked with, emailed or corresponded with oej719.
I have met, talked with, emailed or corresponded with the family who lives across the street from me and two houses down.
See? It's not difficult. What I've quoted is information you volunteered on your own. This isn't a situation where someone may have stopped you on the street and surprised you with a pop quiz where a "to the best of my knowledge" qualifier might be expected.
In your most recent post you were starting the familiar reflection process that we've all come to know and love of describing your losses with AP in the past and how much more success you've had with a different approach to VP. Since we've all been through the preliminaries so many times before, you can just get to the meat of the matter, if you want.
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cddenver
- Video Poker Master
- Posts: 2269
- Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:54 pm
He is just a shill for rs. rs never proves anything and this guy will not either. Can't prove what never happened. When all else fails then lie, seems to be all the shills moto.
The broken record starts playing again. I hope this one has some originality and doesn't just rehash old methods using new numbers...oh! I'll save seagreen33 the time and effort for a post by saying in advance that anyone can PM him for more details.
The broken record starts playing again. I hope this one has some originality and doesn't just rehash old methods using new numbers...oh! I'll save seagreen33 the time and effort for a post by saying in advance that anyone can PM him for more details.
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oej719
- Video Poker Master
- Posts: 1777
- Joined: Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:46 pm
To the best of my knowledge I have never talked to obama.
I did talk to Danny Glover once to the best of my knowledge. I have seen shaq play ball to the best of my knowledge. I heard James Brown is dead to the best of my knowledge.
These guys got a monopoly on stupidity.
I did talk to Danny Glover once to the best of my knowledge. I have seen shaq play ball to the best of my knowledge. I heard James Brown is dead to the best of my knowledge.
These guys got a monopoly on stupidity.
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damule
- VP Veteran
- Posts: 551
- Joined: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:59 pm
I just got home from a 4-hour session at the "infamous" Fort McDowell Casino in Arizona. I don't play video poker to run tedious experiments, I play to have fun and try to win. However, I am very observant of what takes place during the course of my sessions and I will keep a mental note of any patterns that I have picked up on. There are times when I play at a casino and a machine seems "tired or sluggish". This might be true of the whole casino or just a machine. When I sense this, I move on. I don't start blaming gaffs in the machine or tinkering in the programming. You will not see any pretty graphs or colorful charts in my posts, as some of you know I will post jackpot pictures from time-to-time. What you will read in my posts is real world information on what I'm experiencing when I play, and I PLAY ALOT! I also play ALOT in Arizona and Nevada, like a certain you-know-who. And, btw, I'm a Harrah's Seven Stars player, he's only a Diamond player. So rather than tracking 5th card flipovers and special play results on nickel machines, I'm running millions of dollars a year through video poker machines at a very fast pace.
Today, I played a 25-cent 3/5-play machine playing 9/5 DDB. Not as favorable of a paytable as I'd like (I'd prefer 9/6), but certainly playable for a few hours. I played appr two 2-hr sessions, starting with $100 each time.
The first session, I began with 400 credits on 3-play, wagering 15 cedits per deal. After about 45 minutes and growing my credits to over 1500 (with the help of drawing 4 aces - no kicker - after holding none at the draw), I switched to 5-play wagering 25 credits per deal. I cashed out with over 2300 credits.
The second session, I again started with 400 credits which again grew quickly, to over 1300 with the help of pulling low quads w/kicker and I switched over to 5-play from 3-play as well. Again my credits grew to over 2000 and I cashed out with 1600 credits this time.
Total winnings: over $750
Time played: appr 4 hours
Hands dealt: over 2500, drawn to close to 10,000
Royal flushes: 0
Quad aces: 4 (none w/kicker)
Low quads: 4 (1 w/kicker)
Regular quads: 15-20
5th card flipovers w/same card: who gives a c r a p
The machine is a slant top IGT (early-mid 2000's generation). It plays identically to every other video poker machine I've played in the past decade or so. There were no abnormalities with high rates of 5th card flipovers. My wife sat next to me the whole time watching the draws (I play too fast to stop and count and figure out percentages), and no way, no how was this machine running at any irregular rate for 5th card filpovers. I would get 4 to a flush and pick up some flushes, I would get 4 to a straight and pick up some straights, I'd get 2 pairs and pick up some full houses...just like any other machine at any other casino at any other time.
22%, 41%, 52%...HOGWASH.
I've corresponded with Mr Fa La La numerous times and I've told him he's a snake oil salesman. I hold strong to my stance that he's taking these positions as a way to be different and noticed and he certainly has accomplished this on both feats. I think he's an OK guy at heart, but will write anything about video poker to be in the controversial spotlight. He implores well-scribed shills to orate for him in forums which he's been banned from and will play devil's advocate no matter the angle.
Can we finally put the 5th card flipover to rest, it's become a joke!
Today, I played a 25-cent 3/5-play machine playing 9/5 DDB. Not as favorable of a paytable as I'd like (I'd prefer 9/6), but certainly playable for a few hours. I played appr two 2-hr sessions, starting with $100 each time.
The first session, I began with 400 credits on 3-play, wagering 15 cedits per deal. After about 45 minutes and growing my credits to over 1500 (with the help of drawing 4 aces - no kicker - after holding none at the draw), I switched to 5-play wagering 25 credits per deal. I cashed out with over 2300 credits.
The second session, I again started with 400 credits which again grew quickly, to over 1300 with the help of pulling low quads w/kicker and I switched over to 5-play from 3-play as well. Again my credits grew to over 2000 and I cashed out with 1600 credits this time.
Total winnings: over $750
Time played: appr 4 hours
Hands dealt: over 2500, drawn to close to 10,000
Royal flushes: 0
Quad aces: 4 (none w/kicker)
Low quads: 4 (1 w/kicker)
Regular quads: 15-20
5th card flipovers w/same card: who gives a c r a p
The machine is a slant top IGT (early-mid 2000's generation). It plays identically to every other video poker machine I've played in the past decade or so. There were no abnormalities with high rates of 5th card flipovers. My wife sat next to me the whole time watching the draws (I play too fast to stop and count and figure out percentages), and no way, no how was this machine running at any irregular rate for 5th card filpovers. I would get 4 to a flush and pick up some flushes, I would get 4 to a straight and pick up some straights, I'd get 2 pairs and pick up some full houses...just like any other machine at any other casino at any other time.
22%, 41%, 52%...HOGWASH.
I've corresponded with Mr Fa La La numerous times and I've told him he's a snake oil salesman. I hold strong to my stance that he's taking these positions as a way to be different and noticed and he certainly has accomplished this on both feats. I think he's an OK guy at heart, but will write anything about video poker to be in the controversial spotlight. He implores well-scribed shills to orate for him in forums which he's been banned from and will play devil's advocate no matter the angle.
Can we finally put the 5th card flipover to rest, it's become a joke!
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oej719
- Video Poker Master
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- Joined: Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:46 pm
I agree with everything except the part of him being a good guy at heart.
A man that lies like him will do anything.
A man that lies like him will do anything.
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seagreen33
- Forum Rookie
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- Joined: Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:43 am
[QUOTE=New2vp]
A lesson for future reflections. Post very little and let the next argument be handled by another reflection. The more you post, the more likely it is for you to blow your own cover.
I didn't have anything to add to your post, but thought that I'd quote one of the latest alias' posts before he went back and changed it, as he's done with a few others in this thread.
Note I've never met, talked with, emailed or corresponded with Webman, Fa La La La La.... La la la la, or any one else here to my best knowledge.
Interesting qualifier that you have on the end of the statement that I've quoted. It's not very difficult for anyone to make a definitive statement as to whether or not they've ever had any of the interactions you mentioned with specific individuals, especially in the recent past. I'll give a few examples.
I have never met, talked with, emailed or corresponded with President Obama.
I have met, talked with, emailed or corresponded with oej719.
I have met, talked with, emailed or corresponded with the family who lives across the street from me and two houses down.
See? It's not difficult. What I've quoted is information you volunteered on your own. This isn't a situation where someone may have stopped you on the street and surprised you with a pop quiz where a "to the best of my knowledge" qualifier might be expected.
In your most recent post you were starting the familiar reflection process that we've all come to know and love of describing your losses with AP in the past and how much more success you've had with a different approach to VP. Since we've all been through the preliminaries so many times before, you can just get to the meat of the matter, if you want.
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I frequently correspond through PM's and emails and have no way of knowing with whom I'm really corresponding.
I've won big more often early in a session and won't play very long if I am not winning.
A lesson for future reflections. Post very little and let the next argument be handled by another reflection. The more you post, the more likely it is for you to blow your own cover.
I didn't have anything to add to your post, but thought that I'd quote one of the latest alias' posts before he went back and changed it, as he's done with a few others in this thread.
Note I've never met, talked with, emailed or corresponded with Webman, Fa La La La La.... La la la la, or any one else here to my best knowledge.
Interesting qualifier that you have on the end of the statement that I've quoted. It's not very difficult for anyone to make a definitive statement as to whether or not they've ever had any of the interactions you mentioned with specific individuals, especially in the recent past. I'll give a few examples.
I have never met, talked with, emailed or corresponded with President Obama.
I have met, talked with, emailed or corresponded with oej719.
I have met, talked with, emailed or corresponded with the family who lives across the street from me and two houses down.
See? It's not difficult. What I've quoted is information you volunteered on your own. This isn't a situation where someone may have stopped you on the street and surprised you with a pop quiz where a "to the best of my knowledge" qualifier might be expected.
In your most recent post you were starting the familiar reflection process that we've all come to know and love of describing your losses with AP in the past and how much more success you've had with a different approach to VP. Since we've all been through the preliminaries so many times before, you can just get to the meat of the matter, if you want.
[/QUOTE]
I frequently correspond through PM's and emails and have no way of knowing with whom I'm really corresponding.
I've won big more often early in a session and won't play very long if I am not winning.
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damule
- VP Veteran
- Posts: 551
- Joined: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:59 pm
I agree with everything except the part of him being a good guy at heart.
oej,
I say this because he does spend time with his family, although I know he does take 2-3 day trips at times alone. Webman has met him and corresponded with him and RS has said WM seems like a good guy, although RS does slam this forum whenever possible. I know you and RS are in a bitter battle, but I've actually had some reasonable correspondence with him. I take it for what it's worth.
oej,
I say this because he does spend time with his family, although I know he does take 2-3 day trips at times alone. Webman has met him and corresponded with him and RS has said WM seems like a good guy, although RS does slam this forum whenever possible. I know you and RS are in a bitter battle, but I've actually had some reasonable correspondence with him. I take it for what it's worth.
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seagreen33
- Forum Rookie
- Posts: 47
- Joined: Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:43 am
I just got home from a 4-hour session at the "infamous" Fort McDowell Casino in Arizona. I don't play video poker to run tedious experiments, I play to have fun and try to win. However, I am very observant of what takes place during the course of my sessions and I will keep a mental note of any patterns that I have picked up on. There are times when I play at a casino and a machine seems "tired or sluggish". This might be true of the whole casino or just a machine. When I sense this, I move on. I don't start blaming gaffs in the machine or tinkering in the programming. You will not see any pretty graphs or colorful charts in my posts, as some of you know I will post jackpot pictures from time-to-time. What you will read in my posts is real world information on what I'm experiencing when I play, and I PLAY ALOT! I also play ALOT in Arizona and Nevada, like a certain you-know-who. And, btw, I'm a Harrah's Seven Stars player, he's only a Diamond player. So rather than tracking 5th card flipovers and special play results on nickel machines, I'm running millions of dollars a year through video poker machines at a very fast pace.
Today, I played a 25-cent 3/5-play machine playing 9/5 DDB. Not as favorable of a paytable as I'd like (I'd prefer 9/6), but certainly playable for a few hours. I played appr two 2-hr sessions, starting with $100 each time.
The first session, I began with 400 credits on 3-play, wagering 15 cedits per deal. After about 45 minutes and growing my credits to over 1500 (with the help of drawing 4 aces - no kicker - after holding none at the draw), I switched to 5-play wagering 25 credits per deal. I cashed out with over 2300 credits.
The second session, I again started with 400 credits which again grew quickly, to over 1300 with the help of pulling low quads w/kicker and I switched over to 5-play from 3-play as well. Again my credits grew to over 2000 and I cashed out with 1600 credits this time.
Total winnings: over $750
Time played: appr 4 hours
Hands dealt: over 2500, drawn to close to 10,000
Royal flushes: 0
Quad aces: 4 (none w/kicker)
Low quads: 4 (1 w/kicker)
Regular quads: 15-20
5th card flipovers w/same card: who gives a c r a p
The machine is a slant top IGT (early-mid 2000's generation). It plays identically to every other video poker machine I've played in the past decade or so. There were no abnormalities with high rates of 5th card flipovers. My wife sat next to me the whole time watching the draws (I play too fast to stop and count and figure out percentages), and no way, no how was this machine running at any irregular rate for 5th card filpovers. I would get 4 to a flush and pick up some flushes, I would get 4 to a straight and pick up some straights, I'd get 2 pairs and pick up some full houses...just like any other machine at any other casino at any other time.
22%, 41%, 52%...HOGWASH.
I've corresponded with MR Fa La La numerous times and I've told him he's a snake oil salesman. I hold strong to my stance that he's taking these positions as a way to be different and noticed and he certainly has accomplished this on both feats. I think he's an OK guy at heart, but will write anything about video poker to be in the controversial spotlight. He implores well-scribed shills to orate for him in forums which he's been banned from and will play devil's advocate no matter the angle.
Can we finally put the 5th card flipover to rest, it's become a joke!
Congrats on your win at "The Fort". I was there when Fifi brought in the "Mayflower" vans to haul it all away.
Today, I played a 25-cent 3/5-play machine playing 9/5 DDB. Not as favorable of a paytable as I'd like (I'd prefer 9/6), but certainly playable for a few hours. I played appr two 2-hr sessions, starting with $100 each time.
The first session, I began with 400 credits on 3-play, wagering 15 cedits per deal. After about 45 minutes and growing my credits to over 1500 (with the help of drawing 4 aces - no kicker - after holding none at the draw), I switched to 5-play wagering 25 credits per deal. I cashed out with over 2300 credits.
The second session, I again started with 400 credits which again grew quickly, to over 1300 with the help of pulling low quads w/kicker and I switched over to 5-play from 3-play as well. Again my credits grew to over 2000 and I cashed out with 1600 credits this time.
Total winnings: over $750
Time played: appr 4 hours
Hands dealt: over 2500, drawn to close to 10,000
Royal flushes: 0
Quad aces: 4 (none w/kicker)
Low quads: 4 (1 w/kicker)
Regular quads: 15-20
5th card flipovers w/same card: who gives a c r a p
The machine is a slant top IGT (early-mid 2000's generation). It plays identically to every other video poker machine I've played in the past decade or so. There were no abnormalities with high rates of 5th card flipovers. My wife sat next to me the whole time watching the draws (I play too fast to stop and count and figure out percentages), and no way, no how was this machine running at any irregular rate for 5th card filpovers. I would get 4 to a flush and pick up some flushes, I would get 4 to a straight and pick up some straights, I'd get 2 pairs and pick up some full houses...just like any other machine at any other casino at any other time.
22%, 41%, 52%...HOGWASH.
I've corresponded with MR Fa La La numerous times and I've told him he's a snake oil salesman. I hold strong to my stance that he's taking these positions as a way to be different and noticed and he certainly has accomplished this on both feats. I think he's an OK guy at heart, but will write anything about video poker to be in the controversial spotlight. He implores well-scribed shills to orate for him in forums which he's been banned from and will play devil's advocate no matter the angle.
Can we finally put the 5th card flipover to rest, it's become a joke!
Congrats on your win at "The Fort". I was there when Fifi brought in the "Mayflower" vans to haul it all away.
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faygo
- Video Poker Master
- Posts: 2925
- Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:55 am
Just back from AC, played many hours of VP on a nuimber of different machines, my flipover rate was an astounding.......100%. Everytime I threw away a card from a dealt hand the machines flipped over another card. I have figured out that the odds of this happening are 100% of the time unless there is a power failure or the electrons get tired of being annoyed.
