progressive strategy

[mschaching]

When do you sit down at a Progressive VP to play??  Are certain games better than others and do you use a different strategy than what "THE CARDS" say.

[SLaPiNFuNK]

If you are able to play at a Progressive that has multiple games, play the game you know best.But you need to look at the pay tables,  Sometimes JoB or BP may have poor pay tables.  like 85 or even 75 JoB! 

[shadowman]

You can build progressive strategies using just about any of the software programs available that produce strategies. The strategy ends up changing at various increments in the progressive. So, you override the basic strategy when the value of certain hands increases. For example, you might be dealt K(QT) where the QT is suited. Normally, you should hold the KQ but as the progressive increases so does the value of (QT). At some point it is worth more than KQ and you would start holding it. As you can see this only impacts hands where a RF is one of the possible results. If you have a program that doesn't produce strategies you can still determine when to change specific hands if the program has a hand analysis capability. Change the paytable to something you are interested in and evaluate the various hands. In addition, I believe new2vp gave mathematical formula a year of two ago if you want to search the archives. Finally, to determine the value of a progressive without having access to any software there is a rule of thumb that can be applied in most situations. In most games RFs account for about 2% of the return for the 4000 credits you win. Hence, every 200 credit addition to the progressive increases the reutrn by .1%. For quarters that is $50, for dollars that is $200, etc. 

[SLaPiNFuNK]

If you want to hit a progressive that bad, you could always "Force" the hand...People do this in Tournaments.  They try to "Force" a royal... If you want to hit AAAA2, then dump anything, even pairs, or trips, to hold an A..If you want to hit the royal, hold any part of a royal and dump anything else..

[Frank Kneeland]

All the instructions for creating progressive strategies are in my book. It's too much to post here. Page 82-87 Here's a basic description.1. Determine the amount the RF needs to be to be Break-Even (100% return) for the game type.2. Do a strategy for Break-Even.3. Use a VP trainer and formula to calculate break-points. The amounts the meter needs to be to cause alterations to BE strategy.Record it in a strategy card. Strategy on the front, breakpoints on the back.Or at least that's how we did it in the teams.~Frank Kneeland, Author of The Secret World of Video Poker Progressives--A History and How-To of Video Poker Slot Teams in Las Vegas.  www.progressivevp.com