NEED SOME HELP

[sam434343]

Been awhile sents wrote in here but this should cause some up heavel, for them and me lol. I play DDB 8/5 and TDB 9/5 VIDEO POKER they are .25 also progressive jackpots for RF, this THREE part question. These are the best we have near us in casino.(jackpot get up to 1100 to 1300$ before its hit) WHAT IS PAY BACK PERCENTAGE? ALSO DONT KNOW HOW MANY TIMES BUT ALOT KEEP HIGH FACE CARD THROUGH EVERTHING ELSE AWAY LIKE 2579 AND UP COME 222 I KNOW PLAYED IT RIGHT BUT HERE QUESTION YOU SAY ONLY GET QUADS EVERY 425 HANDS DOSE THAT MEAN DONT PLAY THIS MACHINE ANY MORE BECAUSE WONT GET ANOTHER QUAD? HERE IS A DUZY QUESTION HAVE A PAIR 55 THRU 1010 AND A ACE HAND LIKE THIS 55A79 I KEEP 55 UP COMES AA2 NOW THIS HAS HAPPEN ATLEAST 1 OUT OF 20 HANDS SOME TIMES MORE I HOLD THE 55 BUT MY QUESTION HOW MUCH WOULD IT HURT MY PLAY IF I HELD ACE AND NOT 55 THRU 1010? I KNOW ITS NOT THE RIGHT PLAY BUT WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH PERCENTAGE IT WOULD HURT ME. ONE TIME BUY ACCIDENT KEPT AJCLUBS AND JUST WHEN HITTING DEAL BUTTON SAW I HAD 1010 GOT LUCKY UP COME THREE ACES BAD PLAY ON MY PART BUT DID WIN. I AM ONE OF THE PLAYERS WHO PROBALY KEEPS THE CASINO IN BUSINESS. IF CAN ANSWER QUESTION WILL HAVE MORE LOL THX.

[shadowman]

1) For .25 VP every $100 added to a progressive adds .2% to the return. So, at $1300 you'd have an additional .6% added to the base game for 8/5 DDB of 96.8%. 2) A low pair (5-T) is worth about 1.25 coins more than a single ace every time you make the play. 3) You can have quads back to back or thousands of hands apart. Hitting one does not change the odds of hitting another one.

[BillyJoe]

1) For .25 VP every $100 added to a progressive adds .2% to the return. So, at $1300 you'd have an additional .6% added to the base game for 8/5 DDB of 96.8%.
 
2) A low pair (5-T) is worth about 1.25 coins more than a single ace every time you make the play.
 
3) You can have quads back to back or thousands of hands apart. Hitting one does not change the odds of hitting another one.
I will add that, in the case of you believing that you would have caught something if you held different cards, the RNG on the modern VP machines is always running, so unless you had hit the deal button at the exact same millisecond, the cards you receive on the draw would have been different. That said, never bemoan what you get versus what you had, because what your getting on the draw is always changing.

[sam434343]

Thanks for replies. SHADOWMAN & billyjoe    Hear litttle more to add to question on part two Shadowman were i would lose 1.25 buy not keeping 55 thru 10 10 and only keep ace, can you explain little more(in details) so i might understand i have always kept pair but have thought the other way and might keep ace.  Here is another thing i know is wrong play but i do can you you tell me how bad it hurts my pocket (money)  HAVE  had this hand hundred of times ace queen ten  five diamonds 2 spades  this has happen once on DDB AND ONCE ON TDB POKER  the three RF cards might have been little different kept only the RF cards and hit the RF AND LEAST TWICE seems like hitting flush is hard to do for me like one out of seven or eight time I KNOW RIGHT PLAY KEEP FLUSH DRAW but dose it make up for it me hitting the RF and what am i losing when i do it this(wrong) way?thx                                                                                                                       

[shadowman]

In almost all cases the average return of holding 3 for a RF is better than holding 4 for a flush. As far as I know it is true in all versions of DDB and TDB. The 1.25 coin advantage (about 31 cents) of holding the low pair is an average across all possible draws. This is figured out by computing all the possible winning hands for each hold, adding them together and dividing by the number of possible draws.  Let me know if you still have questions.

[sam434343]

SHADOWMAN, THANKS for reply i went to vpgenius and put in different three card RF plus add another card  same suit then odd card both DDB and TDB said on both DDB and TDB To keep four cards to draw to flush and not three card RF  i will still draw to three card RF.  Thanks better understand what you said part 2 on drawing on ace and not the pairs 55 thru 10 10. THX When have more question will ask  okay? Somebody has to keep casinos open guess sometimes its me other times not me. lol Sam

[shadowman]

I was wrong when I stated in all versions of TDB it was correct to hold the 3RF. The key is the payback of the flush. In games where the flush pays back 7 or more (like 9-7 TDB) it is usually correct (except for TJQ) to hold the 4 to a flush. In games where the flush pays back 6 or less it is correct to hold the 3RF. 

[SwtLou]

Folks...first I apologize for being brand new to this forum but I need help.  I am also brand new to video poker.  I need help there most of all.  I am beginning my video poker carrer now and need some advice.  I am thoroughly confused by all of the accronyms...40AK, TDB, 9/5, 9/6.  Can someone point me in the right direction to get started?  Thanks!

[BOOPSAHOY]

4OAK or 4 tree=4 Of A Kind
tdb-triple double bonus
9/5 is for the payout-look at the paytable if you get 9 coins for a fullhouse etc ...

[JIMDUECE`SWILD]

SWTLOU: WELCOME TO THE FORUM.