VP-Which Machine Will You Play?

[shadowman]

Bubbagene, your description is correct ... for machines that are 10 years old or more. The change occurred when the Game King machines were introduced. The continuous shuffle method is now the norm. The director of IGT development stated this himself in an interview so I think we can be pretty sure it's true. I think if you check the date on Royer's book you will it is getting dated. It was probably true when he wrote it but like many things the process has changed. BTW, I worked under the same assumption that you described for many years myself until I learned of the change.

[brmcc74]

Interesting. Ive read that book as well and it is dated which would explain some of the differences we end up with.
Shadow= are all GameKings considered the newer continous shuffle type? Not that it would matter either way I guess when you think about it. Also I understand about the changing denoms. I feel the same way. Youll either feel shorted or nervous to get a good hit.
Damule= from a different post you advised about BKRL managment. This is probably the most important thing for me. Spot on. Thx for the input

[mdmick67]

mdmick or is it mdick?

 
Do yourself a favor and do some research about your new best friend, RS, before you start defending how great of a person he is. The guy is a vile creep. We had a forum member on here pass away last year and he celebrated his death by writing a disturbing column. If you want to fashion your game after his, go ahead, I don't care! But you're not going to find too many friends on this site by sharing what you learned from Mr Falala or by trying to convince anyone that these strategies are successful. We've had plenty of history here with that already and it always ends with the new, RS reflection (that would be you) getting banned from the forum.

Mule,

I told you once already that I don't need your BS, so what's the first thing that you start with, an assault on my name hum, that's somewhat belittling of yourself is it not?

I wasn't defending RS, I simply said that he is a friend of mine, that taught me how to win at VP by using different strategies that don't agree with the way that you evidently play and lose at the game. I'm also not defending his posts on this site before he was banned nor do I ever intend to. As for the way you feel about him, I could care less, that's really of no interest to me.

I joined this site to possibly learn a few things from other people's experiences and to also contribute in ways that might be of interest to some folks. I'm not closed mined like some people. As a successful business owner and being on this earth for 69 years now, I'm at least still able to listen, read and learn new things.

Now as far as being banned from this site for expressing myself and the way that I play the game, that's up to the owners.

Richard (mdmick)

[shadowman]

One of the things I heard was some venues required the continuous shuffle by law and that is part of the reason for the change. I don't know if there is anywhere that might dictate the old dealing method. That is the only reason I could think of why you might find it today. Of course, if you play a machine built on the 90s you would still play the old 10 card sequential method. There's a casino I play at that has these old machines. I believe the book "the video poker edge" by Linda Boyd also discusses this change over.

[mdmick67]

One of the things I heard was some venues required the continuous shuffle by law and that is part of the reason for the change. I don't know if there is anywhere that might dictate the old dealing method. That is the only reason I could think of why you might find it today. Of course, if you play a machine built on the 90s you would still play the old 10 card sequential method. There's a casino I play at that has these old machines. I believe the book "the video poker edge" by Linda Boyd also discusses this change over.


Shadowman,

Interesting discussion: Continuous shuffle/old dealing method.

Have you notice any difference, one over the other in your play style or wins? One of the casino's that I play at has the old dealing method machines and two other casino's where I play must have some of the newer style Continuous Shuffle machines. Not sure but the new style machines might just be making play/win a bit more difficult. I will now be paying a lot more of attention.

[shadowman]

The method of shuffling should have no impact on the return of a game. If the method is random then the long term results should be the identical for the same pay tables. BTW, before the sequential method of the 90s there was another method of dealing. It is called the parallel method. This is where the draw cards are placed logically behind the dealt cards. Hence, you get different draw cards if you throw away different cards.

[bubbagene]

 Shadowman,Thanks for the update. True I havent gotten any new books,would have never thought the rng would have changed.
   Maybe its time for a new book lol.