Leaving Voucher In VP Machine!

[MarySB]

I read on a forum somewhere a few months back that if you found a voucher/credits left on a machine the casino claimed them. Meaning that you were in violation of their rules/policy if you took or used the credits. As I recall this was in a Local Indian casino. I do not remember which state or location or even the forum..
 
Sooooooooooo, with that I am thinking this applies to all casinos eveywhere. On a trip to Vegas in late Feb. I was playing at Feista Henderson. I must preface this with I will move from one machine or location to another at the drop of a hat. Anyway, I decided to move from the machine I was on to a machine I had hit 4 aces on the day before. I hit cash out and I told my wife (who was not playing but just hanging around) to stand here at the machine and I was going to check and see if the machine I wanted to move to was open (someone was on it the last time I checked). Well, someone was still on the machine so I immediately returned to original machine--less than 1 minute I promise). I looked and my voucher that I left hanging in the machine was gone! Said to my wife--where is my voucher! What voucher she says! To keep from dragging this out futher some A__ H__ came by and took it out of the machine and kept going...looking back wife now remembers someone going between her and the machine and pausing slightly and continuing on.
 
I call attendant and tell her my story. Attendant calls her boss and I again relate story. She in turn calls somone who obviously was of high authority and I relate her the story. I tell her I am not so much worried about the money ($75) from the voucher but I wanted them to barr/lockup/kickout do something to this ____ for what I consider stealing.
 
Well! To my surprise she very firmly and politely informs me that when someone leaves a machine that they are considered to abandoned the machine and anything left on or at the machine is considered to have been abandoned. I was surprised to say the least.
 
As stated earlier this happend in Feb. and this is the first opportunity I have had to vent my frustration of having something stolen from me when I am having fun and enjoyment.
 
Without having any feedback from some of you forum contributors I      ass-u-me    this abandonment rules applies to most casino in Vegas?
 
Thanks for listening!

[Tedlark]

  I personally think that certain casino's policy stinks. As for the jerk who took the voucher, well these people scour the casino looking for these situations and I'd like to catch one of them sometime. This is flat out theft. Too bad you had to find this out the hard way, I'm sure next time you will be more careful.

[marie meijer]

I understand your frustration but consider both you and your wife to blame for your loss. Those tickets are as good as cash! I am sorry you had a bad experience but you were not the first or the last to have something go wrong in a casino!Sometimes people want to leave their card and $ in a machine for a few seconds so as to not have their comp count disrupted. I would never trust the person playing next to me.I have seen individuals scouting row after row of machines looking for whatever others left in their machines. Technically, the casinos frown on this type of behavior but apparently it's impossible to apprehend the people doing this. They move fast and casinos have bigger problems to handle. I was playing at MGM Vegas next to several empty machines. Eventually, some one came along and retrieved .75 from the machine next to me. I had not noticed money in that machine or much cared.A couple times, someone stole my bucket including cash in the days before TITO. People tend to focus on playing and not surroundings. Assume that someone is watching you when in a casino. Perhaps watching you win, watching a hand pay or appraising your watch, jewelry or purse.Jean Scott writes in one of her books how somone stole her $600. ticket and cashed it immediately at a nearby TITO machine. Her end machine made no noise when it spit out tickets and she had turned to put her jacket on the chair next to hers, to save her husband a seat. Probably someone walked by and hit the cash out button and another picked up the ticket. There was nothing the casino could do for her and she was out the winnings.

[MarySB]

Oh! I agree that wife and I are at fault. I'm the first to blame myself. But I don't go into a casino expecting to be taken advantage of because I was un-attenative for a minute or so. Heck I go to relax and have fun---not not to be looking over my shoulder or watching my back for some
a...h....  who is waiting to take advantage of me or anyone else. Yes! I will be more careful in the future.

[marie meijer]

A few years ago, someone used my missing players card to pick up a bonus at MGM Detroit, before I had an opportunity to do so. I notice picture I Ds are being asked for, every time someone tries to use their players card in casino restaurants or cash a voucher at the cashiers, now. This policy is probably in effect at most if not all casinos. It proved a necessary security step as those players cards get left and lost all over the place!

[marie meijer]

Casinos and gambling can provide fun entertainment. However, it seems casinos can bring out the worst people as well as the worst in people. I have read stories about churches being robbed of money and artifacts. If the unscrupulous are going to figure out a way to rob churches, they are going to figure out a way to rob others at casinos. It is neither acceptable or nice but a given fact.  

[BeanBean]

I saw something I had never seen before at a casino last weekend, a older man was playing a $1 slot machine to my left and got up and left( Never said 1 word to me), I noticed there was $15 still on the machine and figured he would come back for it. A long time passes, probley about 45 minutes and I am watching the band on my right while playing, all the sudden I notice someone sit down and start to play and I turn around and it is a younger guy.. I wasnt sure what to do or say and the older man had been gone so long I figure he is not coming back so I stayed quiet and figured I should mind my own business. Well guess who comes back and tries to tell the young guy thats his machine, the young guy ( who I never saw put $$ in the machine cuz my back was turned) just shrugs the old guy off. Old guy leaves and comes back with a supervisor and the super informs young guy that he must cash out and give the ticket to old guy, mean while young guy now has the machine up to $180 so the Super hits the cash button, takes the ticket and gives it to old guy. Young guy pleads his case saying he put his money in and wants his back but the supervisor says that since old guys money was in first he is entitled to it all. To me that doesnt and didn't seem fair, everytime someone see's someone hit a jackpot they could run over and claim they had money still in that machine... the only thing I could figure is young guy is one those people you see cruising the machines for money left on them and they recognized him.. it happened real fast and it was just odd, I almost felt like there was a camera somewhere and was about to be on "What Would You Do".. but failed. lol

[marie meijer]

Interesting story, BeanBean. This is a case for always using a players card and that play could be checked and traced to the old man. IF he used a players card. EVEN if someone took his players card out for whatever reason I believe his initial play would still be recorded. Apparently the supervisor had enough authority to make a judgment call re  the owner of that money. What stories those supervisors could tell!

[marie meijer]

A few years ago, a senior citizen won a law suit from Greektown casino. She had picked up some nickels at a slot machine and the casino kicked her out. The casino considered those nickels their property! She had to wait on a cold bench until it was time for her bus to take her back to wherever. Don't mess with seniors! 

[maggiemay]

These are all interesting stories.  I always thought it was finders keepers inside a casino.  I, myself, have had several experiences where attendants who were cleaning up around machines pointed out money left behind to me - both on the floor and in a machine.  It was small denominations and before TITO.  That told me the casino didn't consider it theirs.