Standard Deflection (or Reflection) Techniques.

[backsider]

At this point we need to be consistant about personal attack penalties.
 We also should remain consistent about snide comments that are only meant to cause trouble when a normal question is asked. There should also be a penalty for those who refuse to address why they do that. Im already penalized by being in a wheelchair, but the one thing I can do is keep up with internet trolls when they choose to disrupt.

[New2vp]

faygo, I feel your pain.It probably should not be a surprise, but this is evidently not the only forum to suffer from reflective glare. Try cutting and pastingever posted using a different unannounced aliasinto a GOOGLE search and see what you get.

[EDC1977]

  This is a link to casinos in Nevada cities, other than Las Vegas valley. I rarely visit the forum pages anymore and you put me into a category? I know several users here so I guess that makes me guilty by association. You had better include Webman also.
  http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/referenc ... ortBy=Name

[backsider]

  This is a link to casinos in Nevada cities, other than Las Vegas valley. I rarely visit the forum pages anymore and you put me into a category? I know several users here so I guess that makes me guilty by association. You had better include Webman also.
  http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/referenc ... ortBy=Name
 Thats a good link, thanks. The clickity-clique is seen multiple times in past threads and they are past the point of ridiculous some times. Youre not in it much now but you have been part of those who pile on anyone that one of you thinks or wants to believe is RS. Im not seeing oej719 or cdenver so maybe they had enough of the poop., but true to form the rest of you appear.  The common denominator is shadow/arcimedes because he does the same thing on lva and he probably did it on vpfree which may be why he isnt allowed there anymore. I saw a poster here rolandude who even after providing videos of himself the clique wouldnt let go of their need for him to be RS. Just like me here, shadow and new2 seem to need me to be him but even after Frank says he knows my real name since he sent me his book, they cant let go by claiming reflections and how im letting him use my account to post. So stupid but funny at the same time. How do they sleep if something like this bothers them so.

[shadowman]

The common denominator is shadow/arcimedes because he does the same thing on lva and he probably did it on vpfree which may be why he isnt allowed there anymore. I saw a poster here rolandude who even after providing videos of himself the clique wouldnt let go of their need for him to be RS. Just like me here, shadow and new2 seem to need me to be him but even after Frank says he knows my real name since he sent me his book, they cant let go by claiming reflections and how im letting him use my account to post. So stupid but funny at the same time. How do they sleep if something like this bothers them so.


 
No, the common denominator is a person that thinks they can hide their identity even though they post the same nonsense every time. All the reflections have NEEDED to go back and read other forums and archives so they can attack another person (or, as we already know, they have been reading them all along). Only ONE person has ever mentioned my dispute at vpfree. Like I said before, the more you post the more obvious it becomes.
 
In addition, I think you are confusing humor with "bothers them so". Watching a grown adult try to justify their silly need to post on a VP forum where they've been banned is very funny. You should see it from a normal person's perspective.

[faygo]

[QUOTE=faygo]At this point we need to be consistant about personal attack penalties.
 
We also should remain consistent about snide comments that are only meant to cause trouble when a normal question is asked. There should also be a penalty for those who refuse to address why they do that. Im already penalized by being in a wheelchair, but the one thing I can do is keep up with internet trolls when they choose to disrupt.[/QUOTE]
    Sorry I wasn't clear. I was referencing your post from 8:36AM yesterday. I would hope you would rethink the need for vulgarities when speaking of another member.
 

[New2vp]

the one thing I can do is keep up with internet trolls when they choose to disrupt.The urban dictionary says, "An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion."Does one become a troll by attempting to point out troll-like behavior from another poster, especially if the one pointing out the bad behavior posts interesting or informative information in troll-free threads?  I'll leave that one to be answered by the reader.To remain "on topic" in this thread, one might post a list of Standard Deflection (or Reflection) Techniques that supplement the initial post in this thread such as:2-0.  (adapted from a post by shadowman) Employ odd language phrases and tortured sentence structure used by the BS-master in an effort to bait those who have seen this before into suggesting that the reflection is actually the BS-master.  2-1.  Accuse other posters of being afraid.2-2.  List qualifications and characteristics creating a plausibly sympathetic persona rather than letting arguments stand on their words, a sort of reverse ad hominem fallacy.2-3.  Pretend that someone accused the reflection of being someone else.2-4.  When possible, try and aggrandize the BS-master.2-5.  Try to attain the goals in 2-4 by extolling the BS-master's pet theories whenever possible, including but not limited to:    a.  Video poker machines do not employ fair random number generators.    b.  One cannot win by being an AP and following the math and playing with the edge.  (After all, if the BS-master was unable to win this way, it couldn't be that he was deficient in his application.  Since the BS-master is so smart, it must follow that anyone who wins with standard math techniques is necessarily not truthful.)    c.  One can win only by employing short-term multi-denominational progression techniques and these multi-denominational progressions win even on negative expectation machines.    d.  Employing multi-denominational techniques will result in a high percentage of large wins that offset small losses, despite the fact that simulations demonstrate the exact opposite.    e.  Long-term techniques only work for the casino; short-term techniques employed over and over and over and over work for the player.  Corollary:  there is no limit to how long short-term techniques allow the player an advantage in the long term.    f.  When discarding one card and holding four, there is a much higher probability than 3/47 that the rank of the replacement card will be the same as the rank of the discard, despite the fact that this can easily and has been debunked by actual observation.    g.  One can use patterns of past results to determine when a video poker machine is likely to hit or be "hot" or become "cold."2-6.  In concert with 2-4, snipe at anyone who posts something contrary to this idea, or even if the posting is neutral to 2-4, shape a response in such a way as to change the subject or score points in the direction of 2-4.2-7.  Appeal to anyone who asks that arguments should be stopped or are bothersome to read, claiming  innocence and that the other side is to blame without taking proportional responsibility for one's own participation.2-8.  When possible, use the double-reflection (or very difficult triple-reflection) maneuver by using other rarely-used or new screen names to compliment the posts of the then current primary reflection in an effort to achieve reflective goals.This is not aimed at any specific poster, as it could apply to a whole host of previous posters, but as mightwin eloquently put it, "If the shoe fits..."And, if the above does not apply to you, you really shouldn't be offended.

[New2vp]

Try cutting and pastingever posted using a different unannounced aliasinto a GOOGLE search and see what you get.In reading from the Wizard of Vegas site, there is an interesting poll.  Its members answered a question similar to "Was a particular poster actually a reflection?"  The vote was 24-1.  Twenty-four people thought that two personalities were a reflection, while one was only convinced that one screen name was a reflection.  There were no votes for a reflection-free existence.It is possible that there are more people than those who have posted in this thread at videopoker.com that believe this way.  So much for the clique theory.

[royal flush]

why waste so much time on folks spouting junk the only clique is we all want to hit royals now hit some and post the pictures maybe you will find the game that is not fixed and the royal gets dealt

[New2vp]

why waste so much time on folks spouting junk the only clique is we all want to hit royals now hit some and post the pictures maybe you will find the game that is not fixed and the royal gets dealtYou're right royal, in principle I agree that you are right and I admit being guilty by being drawn into this muck too much.  As to why spend the time trying to help others remove any remaining doubt...I would say that question has been asked and answered earlier.
Why do I care about outing someone who apparently is terrified of his
own shadow(man)?  The chilling effect on posters.  Reticence in posting
to avoid being drawn into this muck.To refer to your last statement, I have never ever been dealt a royal even on line, but I don't think the game is fixed because of that.  I guess I have either been a bit unlucky or not played enough hands.  I have been dealt aces with kickers several times including a couple times in the online contests, but never got a secondary jackpot hand to put me up with the final high scores...so nothing to post.  But I agree it is nice to see such hands from others.