Measuring Change

[shadowman]

Frank, you are confusing winning with making a living. Two somewhat different subjects.

[Frank Kneeland]

Frank, you are confusing winning with making a living. Two somewhat different subjects. Why would you say that? How am I confusing them? I'm not aware of it if I am.

[backsider]

No, it's what I'm saying. It is generally related to information that supports the concept that it is possible to win playing VP and that one can use math to their advantage. There are a number of reasons why people don't want to accept this, and while you know first hand I am right, these people would rather believe no one wins.
 
I've stated many times I don't care how anyone plays or whether they have won or lost. I've never tried to change anyones method of play. I simply deal in facts.
 
 I see multiple fibs in that post. All someone needs to know is that you troll under the handle arcimedes on lva and everything is cleared up instantly, whcih is why almost no one likes you there.  You cant stand it when anyone brings up how the unnamed one plays and if they say they win like he has always said he has. Then you go bonkers whenever anyone says how apers make up stories of winning just for the sake of argument. You have little to no personality other than the belittle others who have differing opinions.  The fact is you cant prove anything you say ad nauseum about how great a player you suposedly are aside from quoting book paragraphs and Dan Paymar one liners. You certainly have stated how you "dont care how anyone plays and if they win or not" but your posts go on and on about how you do, and then you attack anyone who says they win if they dont follow exactly how you play. One would expect you and Frank to get along, and if it werent for his pleasantness and tolerance i dont see how he would bother saying anything to you. Consider an attitude adjustment for your own good, and get some sleep.   

[shadowman]

[QUOTE=shadowman]Frank, you are confusing winning with making a living. Two somewhat different subjects.

Why would you say that? How am I confusing them? I'm not aware of it if I am.
[/QUOTE]


 
That's how I interpreted this statement:
 
"Yes it's possible, but it's incredibly hard and not worth the trouble. Now go do something else. I've wasted my life, and shared the experience, so you don't have to."
 
There is no need to waste ones life playing VP with an advantage. Only if you try to make a living can I see it being that difficult. For example, I only play 6 hours a week at the present time.

[shadowman]

 
I see multiple fibs in that post. All someone needs to know is that you troll under the handle arcimedes on lva and everything is cleared up instantly, whcih is why almost no one likes you there.
 
You cant stand it when anyone brings up how the unnamed one plays and if they say they win like he has always said he has. Then you go bonkers whenever anyone says how apers make up stories of winning just for the sake of argument. You have little to no personality other than the belittle others who have differing opinions.
 
The fact is you cant prove anything you say ad nauseum about how great a player you suposedly are aside from quoting book paragraphs and Dan Paymar one liners. You certainly have stated how you "dont care how anyone plays and if they win or not" but your posts go on and on about how you do, and then you attack anyone who says they win if they dont follow exactly how you play.
 
One would expect you and Frank to get along, and if it werent for his pleasantness and tolerance i dont see how he would bother saying anything to you. Consider an attitude adjustment for your own good, and get some sleep. 
 
So much hate. One can only wonder why.
 
And, the reflection is now familar with Paymar.  
 
You more you post the more obvious it gets.

[backsider]

[QUOTE=backsider] 
I see multiple fibs in that post. All someone needs to know is that you troll under the handle arcimedes on lva and everything is cleared up instantly, whcih is why almost no one likes you there.
 
You cant stand it when anyone brings up how the unnamed one plays and if they say they win like he has always said he has. Then you go bonkers whenever anyone says how apers make up stories of winning just for the sake of argument. You have little to no personality other than the belittle others who have differing opinions.
 
The fact is you cant prove anything you say ad nauseum about how great a player you suposedly are aside from quoting book paragraphs and Dan Paymar one liners. You certainly have stated how you "dont care how anyone plays and if they win or not" but your posts go on and on about how you do, and then you attack anyone who says they win if they dont follow exactly how you play.
 
One would expect you and Frank to get along, and if it werent for his pleasantness and tolerance i dont see how he would bother saying anything to you. Consider an attitude adjustment for your own good, and get some sleep. 
 
So much hate. One can only wonder why.
 
And, the reflection is now familar with Paymar.  
 
You more you post the more obvious it gets.[/QUOTE]
 I only deal with facts, and you cant run away from your posts. therein lies the hate. I see now that youre having to deal with them theyre not sitting well, and youre doing what you do best, insinuate. May I say theres more than one person in this world who understands you.

[damule]

If it's not glaringly obvious to everyone, backsider's writing style has changed dramatically in the past few posts to closely mimic that of "you-all-know-who."
 
 Webman is there a way to verify URL addresses to be sure the posts are coming from the same location? My guess is multiple users are using backsider's log on.

[Frank Kneeland]

[QUOTE=Frank Kneeland] [QUOTE=shadowman]Frank, you are confusing winning with making a living. Two somewhat different subjects. Why would you say that? How am I confusing them? I'm not aware of it if I am.[/QUOTE]


 
That's how I interpreted this statement:
 
"Yes it's possible, but it's incredibly hard and not worth the trouble. Now go do something else. I've wasted my life, and shared the experience, so you don't have to."
 
There is no need to waste ones life playing VP with an advantage. Only if you try to make a living can I see it being that difficult. For example, I only play 6 hours a week at the present time.[/QUOTE]Ah...OK, I see why that's what you thought I meant. This is one of those rare times in life when I believe I may have been misunderstood, but I'm fine with it.~FK

[Frank Kneeland]

On a related note: Dan Paymar is staying with me right now in Vegas and we are working on the new version of OpVP with strategy generator. Did anyone have any suggestions for features they'd like to see in a VP trainer???I also consulted with him last night about my methodology for doing the "system evaluation" that I'm working on. He had very positive comments and agreed that I was handling it in the most logical and impartial way possible. He has a good solid science background, so I feel a lot better about my ideas now that I've had a chance to bounce them off of a veteran like Dan.~FK

[MacRobbo]

Will the new version be Intel/Lion OS 10.7 compatible?