My video poker strategy. It has served me well.

[jm002546]

   I have on many occasions seen the sentiment stated: "I will no longer play these horrible  pay tables. I'm going to just save my money and go to LV" I think that is actuallya very feasible thing to do.  I'm in Texas but there are still carnivals within driving distance.I'd rather spend the money to get to Vegas, but I have an advantage in getting there more cheaply than most because my son flies for Continental-United.  I can appreciate the feeling toward advantage play that isn't readily available to most.

[brmcc74]

Im in the Chicago area and I have several games that with my rewards points put me over 100% suposed payback. Its not as easy as vegas but they are out there. I would myself much rather play in LV but its not practical everyday. When I go to LV, one of the things that tickle me is the Optimum Payback Machs. It says right on the front of some the machines that reward points will not be accumulated towards your reward account. I was disappointed first time that I seen this. This is suppose to be LV, where all the 100%+ games are, they are practically giving money away.......... ya right.........give me a break.

[Frank Kneeland]

Having just returned from a recent Las Vegas  trip. I have had time to crunch the numbers from my last 10 visits, and have done reasonably well with this VP strategy.First this is not a way to play the games. Doing research as to how to read pay tables, how to find the good paying machines, and the proper strategy for each game is well documented (Bob Dancer, Avery Cozad, Wizard of odds, etc) and practicing these on free software is essential.My strategy is a form of money management that seems to work well for meThe advent of multi-game - multi-denomination machines makes this easier. I will take my bankroll , (typically $400 per day)and do not exceed this. I will find a full pay machine (got to get off the strip) and start out at the quarter level with a game with a low variance . I usually pick 8/5 Bonus game which has a 20.90 variance. I will put in a twenty. sometimes it just sucks it away like a vaccuum, but will often get you enough win ( i chose double $40) then I will switch to a game with a higher variance such a Double Bonus (28.25 variance) I will play this back down to the original $20 or, if I should get a quad that will get me near $100 then I will play this game at the dollar level until I am back down to the original twenty, but occasionally will get a big win ( the last trip I hit a $500 st flush and in the past as much as $2000) I am still looking for the 4 grand royal, but it has not happened yet. Once I play down to the original twenty, I switch back to the original game and amount. This does not always come out a winner, but I seem to be usually able to play a long time with the original bankroll. After ten trips to Vegas using this strategy , my Vegas account is ahead $700 , not a fortune to be sure and at times I lose the whole bankroll, but usually come home with some of it , and occasionally ahead. But always have a great time being able to play with the money lasting longer and keeping me in the game. Hope there are a few tips here that may help someone.
So one has to ask. How did you do on those same 10 trips not employing your strategy? How are we to compare the results of your system when you have not offered anything to compare them to.Please go back in time and play the same hands on the same machines without your money management system, so we can make an informed decision. Thank you in advance.If we are to reject the null hypothesis that your results are by chance alone, we need all the information, not half of it as you have provided here. If we made any judgment on what you have provided us here we'd be guilty of succumbing to hindsight bias and attentional bias.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindsight_ ... ional_bias

[New2vp]

Welcome back, Frank. We have missed your insight.

[Frank Kneeland]

Welcome back, Frank. We have missed your insight.
Well that's kind of you to say. Not sure if I believe you, but thanks. I had a rough day and was in a particularly contrary mood when I wrote that post. You may have noticed it was more confrontational than my usual style. Hay, we all have bad days.~FK

[New2vp]

Frank, sorry, I know I can be sarcastic sometimes (especially with some shorter posts) but this time it was sincere.  The last post was short because it was from my phone; my cable internet was misbehaving and NOT being sincere last night.I agree with a lot of what you write (except the parts that I disagree with).  The forum is more interesting with diversified opinions when they are well thought out (i.e., when I concur with at least some of the supporting thought patterns, but well-intentioned differences are also appreciated). 

[Frank Kneeland]

Frank, sorry, I know I can be sarcastic sometimes (especially with some shorter posts) but this time it was sincere.  The last post was short because it was from my phone; my cable internet was misbehaving and NOT being sincere last night.I agree with a lot of what you write (except the parts that I disagree with).  The forum is more interesting with diversified opinions when they are well thought out (i.e., when I concur with at least some of the supporting thought patterns, but well-intentioned differences are also appreciated). 
You misunderstood the reason I said, "I find that hard to believe," It actually had nothing to do with you. I always agreed with all the things you said, even where our opinions diverged. It was all about my less than 100% positive outlook on gambling in general. As well you know there aren't too many VP pros out there that didn't choose VP as their profession, if any, other than myself. It never ceases to surprise me when people take my lack of positive bias and neutrality as negative bias because of their own positive biases. There is simply so little logical thought in this great wide world of ours, I have come to expect dissension for even the most innocuous of comments.Anyone agreeing with me on anything was not expected.One can only wonder if we removed all attentional bias and hindsight bias, if there would still be casinos???

[jm002546]

Hello FaygoPerhaps, I did not make it clear in my posting.  I was referring to my lack of desire to go to NV.  I am not in a position to speak for all other Ohioans.The poster that I responded to gave me the impression that he was only interested in hearing about items within  the boarders of NV.  Likewise, I would enjoy it, if I did not have to read through postings that only relate to NV gaming.So, in my opinion, he and I are saying the same thing.  Just seeing if from opposite angles.
You are right on.  Truthfully, I can say I am only interested in VP in Nevada, and only profitable games, at that..  Now, if somewhere closer introduces 25 cent FPDW I would love to know.  I would welcome a site on AP, only.

[jm002546]

Im in the Chicago area and I have several games that with my rewards points put me over 100% suposed payback. Its not as easy as vegas but they are out there. I would myself much rather play in LV but its not practical everyday. When I go to LV, one of the things that tickle me is the Optimum Payback Machs. It says right on the front of some the machines that reward points will not be accumulated towards your reward account. I was disappointed first time that I seen this. This is suppose to be LV, where all the 100%+ games are, they are practically giving money away.......... ya right.........give me a break.Still, I appreciate the opportunity to gamble for profit.  And, most places do award points, just at a reduced level. Do you really expect them to make already profitable games even more so with equal points?

[jm002546]

[QUOTE=New2vp]Welcome back, Frank. We have missed your insight.
Well that's kind of you to say. Not sure if I believe you, but thanks. I had a rough day and was in a particularly contrary mood when I wrote that post. You may have noticed it was more confrontational than my usual style. Hay, we all have bad days.~FK[/QUOTE]Welcome back, Frank.  Believe it.