DDB question

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looken4it
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DDB question

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:You have played approx 39k hands of DDB since your last Royal. The Royal before that was at 41k hands. The 39k hands had an equal amount of .25/.50 play and $1,$2 and some $5 play. In anticipation that you "might" get a Royal in the next session or two would you change any strategy, e.g. keep A-10 and what denomination would you play ?


Frank Kneeland
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:You have played approx 39k hands of DDB since your last Royal. The Royal before that was at 41k hands. The 39k hands had an equal amount of .25/.50 play and $1,$2 and some $5 play. In anticipation that you "might" get a Royal in the next session or two would you change any strategy, e.g. keep A-10 and what denomination would you play ?

First off: you're only expected to get on average one Royal in 40,830 hands in DDB, which means you are just barely at 1 cycle.Second: since the machines are random you are never any closer or further away from your goal and should NEVER ALTER STRATEGY based on your results, or how long it has been since you hit a jackpot. The machine is the same now as it was on the first hand you played and will remain the same out to infinity.Lastly: The denomination you should play should be based on your total current bankroll, nothing else. These are examples for single line 5 coin and assume you are playing a positive game with at least a .5% edge.Nickels = $2,000-$4,000 (depending on game)Quarters = $10,000-$20,000 (depending on game)Dollars = $40,000-$80,000 (depending on game)These amounts will render about a 1% RoR (Risk of Ruin)If you have less than this you should not be playing at all.~FK

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Post by FloridaPhil »

Frank's answer is the correct answer, but it all depends upon what you are trying to do.  If it's to have some fun and excitement, go for whatever feels good.  Many of the members of this forum are professional VP players and they don’t pull any punches.  I play strictly for fun and I don’t mind paying to play.  Playing consistently above your skill level and bankroll leads to very bad things.  Among those is meeting lots of lawyers, marriage councilors, policemen, pastors, Etc.   DDB is almost impossible to beat long term.  Actually, all gambling is a loser long term unless you have the brains and fortitude to learn to play with a very narrow edge and the bankroll to take advantage of it.  I can’t image a worse way to make a living, but many people try.  Like the man says “there are no bad plays if you win!”  
 

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Frank's answer is the correct answer, but it all depends upon what you are trying to do.  If it's to have some fun and excitement, go for whatever feels good.  Many of the members of this forum are professional VP players and they don’t pull any punches.  I play strictly for fun and I don’t mind paying to play.  Playing consistently above your skill level and bankroll leads to very bad things.  Among those is meeting lots of lawyers, marriage councilors, policemen, pastors, Etc.   DDB is almost impossible to beat long term.  Actually, all gambling is a loser long term unless you have the brains and fortitude to learn to play with a very narrow edge and the bankroll to take advantage of it.  I can’t image a worse way to make a living, but many people try.  Like the man says “there are no bad plays if you win!”   Agree, and I would like to add the numbers I stated assumed the positive 6-10 variant of DDB with some cash-back added in. I did not actually consider that you might be playing negative expectancy DDB, in which case nothing I said would have applied since you aren't playing to make money and I only poorly understand the motivations behind the process of enjoying losing as entertainment.I always try to give the professional view point but I have come to accept that it is not the only one. So now you should know how pros think, just add that to your knowledge set, so you can make more informed decisions.I liked Florida Phil's chime in. Very on topic and good points.

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