Scouting for plays??

[faygo]

Lost cause?

[edog743]

Yes I would say a very lost cause. sad thing is this person works in military intelligence. God help us all.

[New2vp]

What would suggest I do? BobMr. Dancer, you can't please all the people all the time.  (That is Webman's job!)  And don't let a couple bad apples spoil the whole bunch.  Ok, enough with the aphorisms.I'm sure most are pleased that you are posting here, welcome the opportunity to interact, and have no problems with your content or style.After you have been here a while longer, you will be able to separate the posters into those that are trying to learn, to get along, to teach, to influence Webman or the site, simply share opinions, (or all five) from those who feel they have to be stooges for previously banned individuals and those that are simply troublemakers.Answer them if you feel like it; ignore when you don't.  Most of us will be more interested in your points of view and insights than be concerned with making personal accusations.  If we don't like what you have to say, we can go to another thread or start one of our own.Keep it upbeat and don't let turkeys get you down!  (Sorry about that last aphorism...I know, I promised!)

[backsider]

@backsiderFirst off: That may be the only time anyone has ever offered "being more like me" as advice. I have alerted the appropriate media.Second: Bob is in a damed is he does damed if he doesn't situation.  I choose to go the route of never talking about my results, and as a result have had countless people question my authority to talk about VP related matters, because they question whether or not I've been successful. Since I won't say either way, it leaves the door open for doubt. At least with my method people can't question my claims because I don't make any.Bob choose the other path of validating his skill as an instructor with his own personal success. This leaves the door open for people to question his claims. There's no winning this war.In essence there is NO way either way to close the door on doubt. Especially for those that want to break down the door and believe what they will.The only way to understand this is by trying to put yourself in his shoes and playing the what if game. Imagine for a moment you were him and everything you were saying was true. Now try to imagine how you'd prove that to others, when they were determined to twist your words and doubt everything you say. And lastly try to imagine how frustrating that would be.In the end there are two possibilities:1. You could be right2. You could be wrongSince YOU can't be absolutely sure of either, try to be mindful of the effects your words are having in the event that you aren't right. Anyway, that's my last useful advice on the subject.
 Im sorry if this discussion degenerated into you having to be an apologist for Bob.  I understand what he was asked and the answer could have been in a simple paragraph without the needless bragging, which I now know after very little research that he regularly does. For the couple of pot-shot military intelligence commentors we have, I am just an analyst, and we constantly analyze wordy inputs and cause and effect situations in all sorts of scenarios. Red flags and too much information are items I am an expert in. When I spotted what Bob did and saw that he wasnt asked the question to the extent it was answered, several flags went shooting up. He knows what Im talking about, and Im not here to discredit any of his success. I just do not see the need to overstate circumstances, especially to a group of video poker grunts. People can accept anything they choose to and rather than sit idly by I chose to share some of that which I do as a profession. There is less than a 5% probability that I am wrong after I fed some written statements into a program I have. But I realize I still could be wrong. If so, blame Bush!

[Tedlark]

Which Bush? George H.W., George W, or The Burning?

[Tedlark]

Mr. Dancer - I have purchased your software (in a couple of its different versions) and enjoy it very much. I also find your video poker knowlege to be extensive and I am glad that you take the time to share both your knowlege and experiences with us. I sometimes do not take the high road when it comes to letting things roll off our backs, as you do, but I guess I should be a bit more tolerant too.  It will be a continued pleasure to read your posts on this site. Thank You.

[Quad Deuces]

There's nothing in Bob's posts that one wouldn't hear in most of his writings or listening to him speak/teach.  Did backsider miss the part about being -$70K for January? Maybe that was him bragging.  (DAMN!  I just realized I had a $72K better January than Bob!)[Quote=Bob Dancer] January started out $70K in the soup. Not a big deal.[/quote]What I hear:  Bob started this year -2800 coins for January (for me that's $700. ouch.)What @backsider apparently hears:  $70K?  Not a big deal? What a braggart![Quote=Bob Dancer]I haven't hit any $100K royals yet this year.[/quote]What I hear: I haven't hit any 4000-coin royals yet this year.What backsider apparently hears: This guy is telling everyone that if they play video poker, they'll be making hundreds of thousands of dollars per year!  LIES!  He's really just talking up video poker to sell books for his REAL income.The fact that Bob plays $25 machines and I play quarter machines is irrelevant.  In fact, it should be easier for me to increase my bank (when looking at %) because, while I haven't seen Bob's mailers, I'd bet mine are a greater percentage of my coin-in and I have the option of playing higher-return games where he most certainly does not (unless there's a secret back room somewhere that wants to pay him $665 an hour to play their $25 full-pay deuces machines. Plus the slot club.)

[patlives]

thanks guys for all of your help! leaving tomorrow for vegas, if anyone has any special plays downtown they are appreciated!

[backsider]

There's nothing in Bob's posts that one wouldn't hear in most of his writings or listening to him speak/teach.  Did backsider miss the part about being -$70K for January? Maybe that was him bragging.  (DAMN!  I just realized I had a $72K better January than Bob!)[Quote=Bob Dancer] January started out $70K in the soup. Not a big deal.What I hear:  Bob started this year -2800 coins for January (for me that's $700. ouch.)What @backsider apparently hears:  $70K?  Not a big deal? What a braggart!I haven't hit any $100K royals yet this year.What I hear: I haven't hit any 4000-coin royals yet this year.What backsider apparently hears: This guy is telling everyone that if they play video poker, they'll be making hundreds of thousands of dollars per year!  LIES!  He's really just talking up video poker to sell books for his REAL income.The fact that Bob plays $25 machines and I play quarter machines is irrelevant.  In fact, it should be easier for me to increase my bank (when looking at %) because, while I haven't seen Bob's mailers, I'd bet mine are a greater percentage of my coin-in and I have the option of playing higher-return games where he most certainly does not (unless there's a secret back room somewhere that wants to pay him $665 an hour to play their $25 full-pay deuces machines. Plus the slot club.)


[/QUOTE] I think Im glad I didnt understand most of that, but Im sure Mr. Dancer is proud to have you as his whatever that word is.

[BobDancer]

Quad Deuces wrote about me:  The fact that Bob plays $25 machines and I play quarter machines is irrelevant. In fact, it should be easier for me to increase my bank (when looking at %) because, while I haven't seen Bob's mailers, I'd bet mine are a greater percentage of my coin-in and I have the option of playing higher-return games where he most certainly does not (unless there's a secret back room somewhere that wants to pay him $665 an hour to play their $25 full-pay deuces machines. Plus the slot club.)

Absolutely correct. 25c players have opportunities to earn a much higher percentage return than higher-denomination players. For higher stakes players, the dollars-per-hour numbers are higher than they are for quarter players --- and the swings are much bigger as well.  Even if they have accumulated a bankroll one way or another, many players do not have the stomach for big up and down swings. I do. It is one of the secrets to my success. Bob