Discuss the strategy in this Video

[DaBurglar]

Is this the infamous "RS" in person?   Shaqdowman said I was just like him or resembled him....obviously in terms of my posting/ writing here right????    I thought he was 6' 5"  And in super athletic ship shape able to run marathons or something?? Anyhoo, watch the brief video and discuss the strategic point he is making about the hand in question A A A 7 7    What would you do and why? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVsysfIi8U  I personally look at another factor that neither school of thought seems to consider, and that is HOW AM I DOING AT THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT (i.e. AM I UP OR DOWN $$ for the session?)    If I am running at a large profit when this particular hand decision pops up, then I will almost always go for the agressive play trying for the bigger payoff, assuming I am playing TDB or DDB etc.....but If I am down for the session, or if I just started, then I tend to take the sure thing and play it safe.

[BillyJoe]

Is this the infamous "RS" in person?   Shaqdowman said I was just like him or resembled him....obviously in terms of my posting/ writing here right????    I thought he was 6' 5"  And in super athletic ship shape able to run marathons or something??
 
Anyhoo, watch the brief video and discuss the strategic point he is making about the hand in question A A A 7 7    What would you do and why?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVsysfIi8U
 
 
I personally look at another factor that neither school of thought seems to consider, and that is HOW AM I DOING AT THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT (i.e. AM I UP OR DOWN $$ for the session?)    If I am running at a large profit when this particular hand decision pops up, then I will almost always go for the agressive play trying for the bigger payoff, assuming I am playing TDB or DDB etc.....but If I am down for the session, or if I just started, then I tend to take the sure thing and play it safe.
I will ALWAYS break the FH playing TDB. I figure, premium quads is why I am playing this game in the first place.

[Eduardo]

It wasn't TDB, it was just bonus poker. Otherwise billyjoe you are of course right.The video caption says "Rob is probably the most controversial video poker player known because he does not necessarily follow the "math" of the game" No... that would make him a typical video poker player, not a controversial one. The reason he is controversial is because he acts like a ******* and claims victory over science with no leg to stand on. You might as well call Aunt Alejandra the most controversial burrito maker because she pisses in the beans and calls it health food. Case in point... here captain genious was pointing out in the video that he would hold the full house over three aces because it's NOT WORTH GIVING UP 40 points! So... why is it worth giving up 35 points then? Because there is an opportunity. AN OPPORTUNITY! For aces. Which was also there with the better pay table. But don't give it up for 40. Give it up for 35. Even though 40 credits will never give you a "winning session" any more than 35 credits would (his usual reason for making special plays) So do it this way instead of the way the math geeks say to do it. Because math is for fools and intuition of HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY on a lower pay table must be a smarter play because... because... er... because because... because... of the wonderful things he does. Great, now I'm off to see the wizard. Grabbing a taco on the way. Sorry Aunt Alejandra, I won't fall for your healthier beans this time.

[damule]

The correct play is to break up the full house with aces over in double double bonus as well as in triple double bonus.

[faygo]

Eduardo nailed it.  I won't give him the satisfaction of a hit on Utube to watch that junk. I have snakes in the woods and waters around me that don't slink as low as he does. 

[shadowman]

Is this the infamous "RS" in person?   Shaqdowman said I was just like him or resembled him....obviously in terms of my posting/ writing here right????    I thought he was 6' 5"  And in super athletic ship shape able to run marathons or something??
 
I'm not sure who shaqdowman is but I'm sure he would be over 7' and 300 lbs and could dunk a burrito while Eduardo was still trying to eat it.
 
On the off chance you were referring to me ... no, I never said you were "just like him".
 
BTW, it was beyond obvious that BS was really RS in disguise so we've all had a chance to deal with him over the last couple of years.

[BillyJoe]

The correct play is to break up the full house with aces over in double double bonus as well as in triple double bonus.
I agree on single line, but if you are playing, say ten-play, I still think it is automatic on TDB, but not so much on other games. Even at 8/5 DDB, giving up a sure 400 credits (well, actually only 250, since the worst you will have is 10 sets of trips for 150) for the opportunity to get 2000 is not a slam dunk, IMO, as a recreational player. 

[damule]

[QUOTE=damule]The correct play is to break up the full house with aces over in double double bonus as well as in triple double bonus.
I agree on single line, but if you are playing, say ten-play, I still think it is automatic on TDB, but not so much on other games. Even at 8/5 DDB, giving up a sure 400 credits (well, actually only 250, since the worst you will have is 10 sets of trips for 150) for the opportunity to get 2000 is not a slam dunk, IMO, as a recreational player. [/QUOTE]

 
billyjoe,
 
It's not even a discussion in double double bonus. The expected return when holding trip aces over a full house is more than 12.7 to 1 versus, depending on the paytable, usually 8 or 9 to 1. Doesn't matter if you're playing single, 10-play, or 100-play.

[BillyJoe]

[QUOTE=billy joe][QUOTE=damule]The correct play is to break up the full house with aces over in double double bonus as well as in triple double bonus.
I agree on single line, but if you are playing, say ten-play, I still think it is automatic on TDB, but not so much on other games. Even at 8/5 DDB, giving up a sure 400 credits (well, actually only 250, since the worst you will have is 10 sets of trips for 150) for the opportunity to get 2000 is not a slam dunk, IMO, as a recreational player. [/QUOTE]

 
billy joe,
 
It's not even a discussion in double double bonus. The expected return when holding trip aces over a full house is more than 12.7 to 1 versus, depending on the pay table, usually 8 or 9 to 1. Doesn't matter if you're playing single, 10-play, or 100-play.[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying that you are wrong, Mule, but I always seem to have trouble filling in trips for quads. It's probably just me, but I, personally, would think about it in 10-way 8/5 DDB, especially if I am having a tough session. I know, the math doesn't change the facts, but I am a recreational player, and with the limited number of hands that I play on a gaming trip, those 400 credits may look pretty good.  

[BobDancer]

BTW, it was beyond obvious that BS was really RS in disguise so we've all had a chance to deal with him over the last couple of years.
  I'm delighted that BS is no longer here --- he was definitely a negative disruptive force here --- but I don't think he and RS are/were the the same. As "evidence" I looked at the past 10 posts by RS on vpFREE. ALL of them use apostrophes correctly! BS regularly omitted apostrophes in his posts on this forum. This is not conclusive evidence, perhaps, but it's enough for me. If SM wishes to conclude otherwise, so be it.  Insofar as the strategy presented in the video goes, it was wrong. in 7-5 BP, from AAA77, the proper play is to hold five cards. In 6-5 BP you hold the aces only. Yes in DB, DDB, TDB you hold the aces only --- and it doesn't matter how many lines you play and it doesn't matter the pay schedule. This is not a tricky play. I'm glad this video was posted. I did not know what RS looked like. I have seen the him in casinos but I didn't know who he was.  And I'm happy Eduardo has never invited me to his aunt's home for a taco dinner! Bob