RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR

[sam434343]

Shawdowman,i can tell we figured it out 30-3=27 -2= 25 but again you miss it and that tells me where you are comming from. I am going to assume you have a degree in math by the way you talk, it is a valid comparison i am also going to assume you know about Pure mathematics & Applied mathematics and some the genuis in math disagree on math problem you will know what i am talking about if you do have a degree in aglebra,geometry,trigonometry,calculus, also you have know about linear algebra,combinatorics,differential equations,real, analysis,complex analysis,abstract algebra which included group theory,ring theory,field theory,module theory, topoogy,number theory,logic,probability,statistics this list goes on and and on but the next one is game theory but again i am going to asume you are one of the less than 5 percent of the people of the U.S. than understand this. With your knowledge you thinking out side the box not good the way you talk about it, well  itell you this math was around about 4000 years ago some agree some say more and there has been people back then that had to think outside the box or you would not know what you know now about math today and sents math was invented till this present day they always learning new things for math. I am guessing you think( puff) math was here and there will be no more to learned i disagree but that is okay because it does give me a headache going beyond what is math beyond the easy 2+2 =4 and thats why future generation will use math way beyond what we use today, Sam 

[BillyJoe]

Just not a lot of 'math' involved in a static 52-card deck of cards, though. It's just arithmetic.

[sam434343]

Lol yes billyjoe you are right what is it 2.5 million possible hands

[shadowman]

sam434343, did you have a point? The math involved in VP analysis is nothing but arithmetic as billyjoe stated. Bringing up things like geometry, calculus, etc. is nothing but a bunch of red herrings.


 
Video Poker is a completely solved game. Try to understand what that means. Even though there are 2,598,960 hands with millions of possible draws does not change the fact that every one of them can be listed and analyzed. Computers do come in handy some times.
 
New ways of looking at mathematics may come along but they will exist in harmony with arithmetic. They won't change our basic understanding of adding and subtracting. And, they won't change our understanding of something that can be completely described with simple mathematical operations.

[moneyla]

There are/were three different ways to deal replacement cards after the first five are displayed: 1.  shadow cards2.  sequential cards from the first shuffle, you draw what's on top3.  continuous shuffle, you get the cards when the continuous shuffle stops Now the problem of having four to the royal: In each method you have a 1/47 chance of drawing the royal card, but: 1. with shadow cards, your royal card could be locked under a card you are holding2. with the sequential method your card could be locked as the second to 47th card in the remaining deck and impossible to draw3. the continuous shuffle method gives you the best shot at drawing the royal card, but the odds of getting it are no greater than with methods 1 or 2.

[sam434343]

Okay Shadowman you have answered my question(you have no degrees) and you will always be the person who works for those people who are the less than 5 percent who have all the knowledge and then there are people like you who are give the answers but will not look any futher and use insult and jabs because that is all you have, thank you for working for me shawdowman.AND YES SHAWDOWMAN THAT IS A DIRECT INSULT LOL! Thanks moneyla you do see the math  and have give the correct answer. Sam

[onemoretry]

Shawdowman,i can tell we figured it out 30-3=27 -2= 25 but again you miss it and that tells me where you are comming from. I am going to assume you have a degree in math by the way you talk, it is a valid comparison i am also going to assume you know about Pure mathematics & Applied mathematics and some the genuis in math disagree on math problem you will know what i am talking about if you do have a degree in aglebra,geometry,trigonometry,calculus, also you have know about linear algebra,combinatorics,differential equations,real, analysis,complex analysis,abstract algebra which included group theory,ring theory,field theory,module theory, topoogy,number theory,logic,probability,statistics this list goes on and and on but the next one is game theory but again i am going to asume you are one of the less than 5 percent of the people of the U.S. than understand this. With your knowledge you thinking out side the box not good the way you talk about it, well  itell you this math was around about 4000 years ago some agree some say more and there has been people back then that had to think outside the box or you would not know what you know now about math today and sents math was invented till this present day they always learning new things for math. I am guessing you think( puff) math was here and there will be no more to learned i disagree but that is okay because it does give me a headache going beyond what is math beyond the easy 2+2 =4 and thats why future generation will use math way beyond what we use today, Sam 
 Having read through this thing several times (with, I might add, great difficulty due to the misspelling, poor punctuation and sentence construction, etc.) I have to confess that I have absolutely no idea what his point is, if he has one at all.

[BillyJoe]

There are/were three different ways to deal replacement cards after the first five are displayed:
 
1.  shadow cards
2.  sequential cards from the first shuffle, you draw what's on top
3.  continuous shuffle, you get the cards when the continuous shuffle stops
 
Now the problem of having four to the royal:
 
In each method you have a 1/47 chance of drawing the royal card, but:
 
1. with shadow cards, your royal card could be locked under a card you are holding
2. with the sequential method your card could be locked as the second to 47th card in the remaining deck and impossible to draw
3. the continuous shuffle method gives you the best shot at drawing the royal card, but the odds of getting it are no greater than with methods 1 or 2.
Moneyla, I don't want to split hairs on this, but I do not agree that #3, continuous shuffle, gives you the 'best shot at drawing the royal card'. The three methods just describe WHEN the card you are drawing is selected, and where it is placed, that's all. In #3, you are not closed out of drawing the needed card until the very end, but that is about it.  

[BillyJoe]

Okay Shadowman you have answered my question(you have no degrees) and you will always be the person who works for those people who are the less than 5 percent who have all the knowledge and then there are people like you who are give the answers but will not look any further and use insult and jabs because that is all you have, thank you for working for me shadowman.AND YES SHAWDOWMAN THAT IS A DIRECT INSULT LOL! Thanks moneyla you do see the math  and have give the correct answer. Sam
I don't know about you, Sam, but I learned arithmetic in grade school. I may not be as fast as a computer, but given enough time, pencils, erasers and paper, I can do the same calculations of a five-card spread from a static, 52-card deck without any advanced degree. It would be hard for me to imagine any future advances in mathematics changing that. But I stopped at an MBA, so I could be wrong.  
 
The three approaches outlined in Moneyla's post only describe WHEN the desired card is selected, and where it is placed for viewing.  

[sam434343]

Okay billy i understand you dont see it, Now onemorety well i hope you are not as bad of as me and  i hope you understand what i write next over last four yaers my health has gone way down they almost put me in the ground  over twenty times last summer2011 had a stroke, loss of speech, remebering words,eye moment left side, and weakness on both left arm and left leg and i have other major health problems that are not listing i dont need you feel sorry for me it is what it is.(and i am lucky i can write) But i tell you this onemorety, and shawdowman, i will contact the attorney generals office in each of the state that you live in, all the evidence that is written on this site will be submitted to each attorney general office and  seen by them. Then we will go before a judge,(onemorety you be there to submit your evidence) then you can prove your case on the math that you know and i will submit my finding on the math i know . Well i know that they cant do this but the loser get 10 years in prison. If they did do this and i lose i die in prison LOL But if i am right with math you both go to prison for ten years.Sam