Bankroll vs Wins

[jakgaph]

Lots of info on bankroll strategy but at what point does everyone LEAVE a machine for another. EX: If you hit a royal, how many more hands do you play before leaving, if you hit quads, same thing ?I have hit mutiple quads in very short spurts many many times, also, if we assume a VP machine will pay quads on average every 400 hands and I hit 2 or 3 within 15-20 pulls logic says I should leave the machine ...no ??so does anyone have a set "i'm out" based on winnings 30% 50% 100% etc.Interested in any responses

[BOOPSAHOY]

Because the RNG is random you have the same chance of getting another 4oak or Royal staying at that machine or going. I usually stay at the machine for a while.

[faygo]

Because the RNG is random you have the same chance of getting another 4oak or Royal staying at that machine or going. I usually stay at the machine for a while.
 
I can attest to that. Same machine 1 HR apart 2 Royals.  Each press of the deal button is a "New Day."

[BOOPSAHOY]

I like that saying Faygo!

[shadowman]

My approach to staying or leaving a machine or casino is not based on gambling results. It is based on what I want to do. Everyone is different so go with your own preferences.

[spxChrome]

I've tried both and can confirm its all luck of the draw.  I have switched machines after hitting quads and then I have also stayed on a macine that seemed to be "hot". 

[clwn2]

Hell, I have an opinion on this too!  Like the others, I have taken many routes to success and have found the following to be my gameplan.  I play at the quarter level.  As a rule, I use approx 1-4 twenties per machine depending how they play.  If it does not pay out I will move to another machine.  I do this because poker machines seem to be active or  inactive.  By active I mean paying out flushes, full houses, quads...  If I start to hit I will continually play until I have put x amount back into the machine.  I dont like to put all the money back into it especially if I hit something bigger than 400 coins.  Most of the time you can get a few four of a kinds per machine before they become inactive.  This is not the rule of course because I have had machines in the past that have given me 10-20 four of a kinds.  Believe me, it does not happen too often.  As far as a Royal or as in DDB Aces with a Kicker goes I will still play on because if a machine is paying you have to continue ot play it.  I have had many times where I have had the Royal and still hit quads afterward.  I have hit the Royal and got nothing afterwards. It is something a person has to get experience with.  The only real thing I have to say is don't put it all back in trying to get another one.  Save at least half of it and if the machine does not hit move to another one.  I know, technically, each hand has the same chance to win blah blah blah.  It is true. But it is also true that you can send yourself to the poor house taking that information too seriously.  I am not a professional.  Professional players have the backroll to ride out the low points when the pickens are slim.  If you are a recreational player who plays for fun you have to protect your jackpots when you get them by keeping them!    

[shadowman]

  I know, technically, each hand has the same chance to win blah blah blah.  It is true. But it is also true that you can send yourself to the poor house taking that information too seriously.  I am not a professional.  Professional players have the backroll to ride out the low points when the pickens are slim.  If you are a recreational player who plays for fun you have to protect your jackpots when you get them by keeping them!    
 
It seems you realize that there is no advantage to moving to another machine yet you recommend it as an approach. Once again, I have no problem with people moving but statements like "you can send yourself to the poor house taking that information too seriously" just perpetuate these kind of myths. Since I once believed these myths and they affected my play, I now try to discredit them as often as I can.
 
I'm sure you've had instances where you've moved to many machines and found ALL of them to be in what you call an "inactive" state. Sorry, but this just isn't true. Just because you didn't hit anything doesn't mean that someone else might not have hit winner after winner on the same machine at the same time. The RNGs provide all possible results over a very short time period. The fact a person has hot and cold streaks is a function of randomness, not a function of which machine you are playing.
 
I know this is difficult for most people to accept. The only thing we can blame for our losing streaks appears to be the machines, but there is another culprit ... randomness. Since the vast majority of people don't understand what randomness entails they choose to blame the machines. I once did the same thing until I wrote a program to analyze a couple of RNGs. What I discovered is all results are available if you happen to hit deal at the right times no matter what I chose as a seed (changing the seed is equivalent to moving machines). BTW, the RNGs do have imbedded hot/cold steaks but they pass over in a couple of seconds and have no real impact on our results. I can get into this in more detail if anyone is interested.
 
Finally, since moving machines has no real advantage, there is no way to "protect your jackpots" other than quitting forever. The only advantage to leaving when you're ahead is you may feel better about your day. However, the next hand you play is no different than if you had not quit and impacts your long term results in exactly the same way. I don't want to downplay the importance of "feeling good" as it is a big part of why we play. However, I think we should all understand the facts and know that these decisions are only our own personal choices.
 

[Eduardo]

I think I will leave a machine for another just to change the view or try another game for fun but not expect to win more or less. If I find one machine that is good maybe I will play it longer but no I do not think it will change any outcomes. Changing bet size would do that so if you win big and then bet small you can keep some of what you win.  That does make sense.  But changing machines seems like just rolling dice with my other hand. Hoochie mama, I got yahtzee!

[shadowman]

Like Eduardo mentioned, I change machines every so often if I am doing poorly. I do it for the some of the same reasons I used to get up and walk around when trying to solve a tough problem at work. It relaxes me and refreshes me which helps me maintain a positive outlook and increase my enjoyment. I don 't expect the move to change my results and it's just as likely I could have done better by staying on the previous machine (in fact, I sometimes return to the same machine).
 
OTOH, I rarely reduce my bet size. The frustration of hitting a jackpot with a lower bet is not something I want to add my whine list.