Sweet C Prog. RF Run

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onemoretry
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Re: Sweet C Prog. RF Run

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But here is my point, the polar opposite of "rigging" and yet not an OPPOSITE at all....if machines can be set to deal cards that are not favorable (i.e. LOSERS) at various rates and various configurations, then the flip side is they can also set a machine, using the utility/user menu settings I've talked about before, to actually have a machine PAY at a rate that exceeds normal expectations.   it makes sense.... 
 Well, it doesn't make sense to me.  But, I think I'm beginning to understand your point of view. Apparently, there is a range of results that you consider "normal".  Results that fall outside that range, either good or bad, cannot be explained by any other factor(s) except that the machines are rigged. Do I have that right?

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good answer, thanks.   I appreciate the honesty, you obviously have been exceptionally "lucky". some might even say BLESSED! lol But here is my point, the polar opposite of "rigging" and yet not an OPPOSITE at all....if machines can be set to deal cards that are not favorable (i.e. LOSERS) at various rates and various configurations, then the flip side is they can also set a machine, using the utility/user menu settings I've talked about before, to actually have a machine PAY at a rate that exceeds normal expectations.   it makes sense.... Larry and C's results, particularly in 2011, might suggest a casino deciding to set a bank of  machines to deal RF at a rate higher than the expected rate.   I've seen and heard of this before......plus, it makes sense that a casino, if it truly wants to for business/promo reasons, can take a machine and have it be exceptionally "generous", that is their business right.  Gaming regs are meant to protect the CUSTOMERS primarily, as well as the states' various interests.  They are NOT intended to dictate HOW a company must run the BUSINESS side of things. I know a number of people who I suspect were the "victim/beneficiary" of a machine(s) that were set to be extremely GENEROUS, with the obvious intent, ultimately, to get them in a euphoric mood so that, when the machine is tightened up again, they crash hard.     To go from 2011's year results to 2012 definitely suggests something was changed outside of normal chance. Still, I am happy for Larry, it is good when one of our own wins

If this was true, why do Louisiana and many other states write legislation like this:

A.     All EGDs submitted for approval:
1.     shall be electronic in design and operation and shall be controlled by a microprocessor or micro-controller or the equivalent;
2.     shall theoretically pay out a mathematically demonstrable percentage of all amounts wagered, which shall be at least 80 percent and less than 100 percent for each wager available for play on the device;
3.     shall use a random selection process to determine the game outcome of each play of a game. The random selection process shall meet 99 percent confidence limits using a standard chi-squared test for goodness of fit and:
a.     each possible permutation or combination of game elements which produce winning or losing game outcomes shall be available for random selection at the initiation of each play; and
b.     the selection process shall not produce detectable patterns of game elements or detectable dependency upon any previous game outcome, the amount wagered, or upon the style or method of play;
4.     shall display an accurate representation of the game outcome. After selection of the game outcome, the EGD shall not make a variable secondary decision which affects the result shown to the player;
5.     shall display the rules of play and payoff schedule;
6.     shall not automatically alter pay-tables or any function of the device based on internal computation of the hold percentage;

As far as Lucky Larry's result description, they still look like they fall within random chance, imo, with 2011 being likely being above average in terms of Royal Flushes and 2010 and 2012 being more "average" years. The Royal is such a rare event in video poker, that it takes a GIGANTIC sample to see the "law of averages" do what we expect it to do with regards to it.

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Post by luvzlyfe »

W2G Sweet C! Tonight I saw a guy get dealt a royal...he was playing 7 hands of 10 hand nickel - but still $1600. I love seeing your wins!!

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Post by Lucky Larry »

Vman,
First and foremost I am truly "Blessed" - Sweet C is my soul mate. BTW: Happy Anniversary Sweet C - March 1.

I would view our results as being extremely lucky, being wonderfully skilled and a lot of hands - seat time.    

Most trips are losers - especially since we are playing negative games but we play enough times a year to hit nice winners for posting. For every winning post there are thousands of losing hands.

2011 is primarily the result of hitting 2 large hand pays early in January which provided a bankroll 3-4 X our normal thus allowing me to play a huge amount of 3/5 hand (25¢-50¢) 99% NSUD and JOB. Playing those high percentage low volatility games increased my changes of winners. With our normal bankroll I'm generally forced to play more multi-hand 5¢ where those hand pays are really rare. It harder to play bigger denominations with a $2-300 bankroll for a trip unless you hit early. BTW: If i (we) didn't believe in the RNG we would not be playing.

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W2G Sweet C! Tonight I saw a guy get dealt a royal...he was playing 7 hands of 10 hand nickel - but still $1600. I love seeing your wins!!

Thanks luv. The two only things better in our lives are being with each other or being with grandkids/great-grandkids.

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Most trips are losers - especially since we are playing negative games but we play enough times a year to hit nice winners for posting. For every winning post there are thousands of losing hands.

Yeah :( But no one wants to read about losing posts, right? lol

It really just depends on volume a lot. The more you play, the more often you will hit a Royal. But it's easy to go many hands without one, but occasionally you'll get even 2 Royals in a day too! (Still waiting for that to happen to me...haha)

I had 2 Royals in 2012, and a 4 Deuces hit with a 5X multiplier worth 5000 nickels. For the amount I played on the year though, that probably was above average for me. I definitely don't feel like I played ~100k hands last year, especially since I usually only play multihand when it's pennies. But I probably average 5-10 hours/month of video poker, which isn't as much as many players.

And Happy Anniversary!

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[QUOTE=Lucky Larry]   

Most trips are losers - especially since we are playing negative games but we play enough times a year to hit nice winners for posting. For every winning post there are thousands of losing hands.

Yeah :( But no one wants to read about losing posts, right? lol

It really just depends on volume a lot. The more you play, the more often you will hit a Royal. But it's easy to go many hands without one, but occasionally you'll get even 2 Royals in a day too! (Still waiting for that to happen to me...haha)

I had 2 Royals in 2012, and a 4 Deuces hit with a 5X multiplier worth 5000 nickels. For the amount I played on the year though, that probably was above average for me. I definitely don't feel like I played ~100k hands last year, especially since I usually only play multihand when it's pennies. But I probably average 5-10 hours/month of video poker, which isn't as much as many players.

And Happy Anniversary![/QUOTE]

Thanks Vman,

Losing is what makes winning so much fun right!!!

I've never hit 2 RF on same day on 25¢ or greater denomination that would be really nice but, Sweet C has on an incredible run including double RF one night which helped her celebrate one of her big 30+ birthdays. She had been on a back-to-back RF trips run when we went a third trip and she caught a RF and then AWAK while waiting for the hand-pay. We moved from Isle to L'Auberge where she moved up denominations to $1 NSUD and caught another RF, deuces, and concluded with AWAK on $5 DDB. The best night for either of us. So three trips in a row she hit a RF with two on the third trip for a total of four within 10 days. The second RF was a premonition hit where she predicted the hit as we walked into the casino and told me which machine she would hit on. When we reached the machine someone was it but when he left she immediately sat down. Sure enough less than 20 minutes later RF. We have hit RF within a few minutes of each other which was pretty exciting.

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