I would like to try this but.......

[alpax]

There is a blackjack betting system (I do not know what it is called) that some people at a local casino uses to benefit them when streaks go their way.

I am well aware there is no such system that wins in the long term on a negative expectation game.

Steps - Progress if you win or get Blackjack. Stay if you push or win half of a split. Return to step 1 for all losses.

1. Bet 1 table minimum unit
2. Bet 3 table minimum unit
3. Bet 2 table minimum unit
4. Bet 5 table minimum unit (or Bet 6 if you feel greedy)
5. Win after step 4 return to 1

I guess for Deuces Wild, the table minimum unit mentioned should be 5 quarter credits. If you get a non winning hand, go to step 1, if you get a 3 of a kind bet the same amount next hand, if you get straight (non bonus DW) or better, move to the next step. I guess the 6 credit bet will be 15 credits at 50 cent denomination.

Phil's system is proven and tested, I am unsure how this will turn out, but for Blackjack, it takes a terribly unlucky day for this system to fall on its face.

[olds442jetaway]

Increasing your bet as you lose increases the variance. This means you can win more sessions but when you do lose you lose it faster.

     That is for sure. I just happen to like to play this way. Once in awhile, I have had some great hits like a Rloyal with 16 quarters bet and Deuces quads several times with between 15 and 25 quarters bet. Because of the faster losses with this system, I am going to try it by staying at 5 bet until I have lost 250 bucks before I even head up to a bet of 6. I also realize that I won't be able to stay at 6 as long as 5 and if I have to go to 7 the time at this level will be even less than 6 and so forth up the ladder. Of course one hopes to hit the deuces quads at some point and even on rare occasions the Royal. I think you can last quite a while with airport deuces at the bet 5 level and maybe with luck will catch the deuces quads without having to progress up to 6. We'll see. The plan is to try it tonight when things are quiet and I have a good choice of machines. I may even move around some keeping the progression going rather than stay at one machine that may be in a horrible cycle.

     I have also been experimenting with part of the Phil method by just playing 4 times at a given machine and cashing out with a profit before the 4th loss. Looks good on the limited trials have made so far. In the middle of the night at Mohegan Sun, it is easy to move around from machine to machine and just put your card and ticket in from the prior machine. There are dozens and dozens of machines to choose from too. Playing this way is next to impossible when it is busy and a royal pain. No pun intended. I don't see why I can't work both at the same time. Most of the night and early AM will be playing 5 units I hope.

[BillyJoe]

There is a blackjack betting system (I do not know what it is called) that some people at a local casino uses to benefit them when streaks go their way.

I am well aware there is no such system that wins in the long term on a negative expectation game.

Steps - Progress if you win or get Blackjack. Stay if you push or win half of a split. Return to step 1 for all losses.

1. Bet 1 table minimum unit
2. Bet 3 table minimum unit
3. Bet 2 table minimum unit
4. Bet 5 table minimum unit (or Bet 6 if you feel greedy)
5. Win after step 4 return to 1


Having played BlackJack for many years, back when you had a fighting chance to determine the likelihood of future cards at a table, I would say that all that this system would ensure is that you have the wrong bet out at the right time.

[alpax]

Having played BlackJack for many years, back when you had a fighting chance to determine the likelihood of future cards at a table, I would say that all that this system would ensure is that you have the wrong bet out at the right time.

Yup I agree, there is no real good betting system these days in blackjack. If you cannot win two games in a row with this system consistently, it fails big time particularly you win the first hand and then lose on the next hand where you may double down on 3 unit bet to put you in the hole 5 units.

Now and days to further combat card counting, they've either increased the number of decks from 4 to 6 or 8 on the shoe or even do not allow new players while the shoe is being played to prevent counters from coming in at favorable times. Some of the local casinos now have a continuous card shuffler where you put in the cards from the previous game. Good blackjack playing days are over

[OTABILL]

Increasing your bet as you lose increases the variance. This means you can win more sessions but when you do lose you lose it faster.

Haven't seen a post by you in a long time. Welcome Back to the forum.

[olds442jetaway]

I started to play this way last night, but the deuces were in such a lull, I dumped it early. I am up to nearly 20k hands now without deuces quads. Should have had 4. Of course that is long term. Anyway, I fell back to my old job Martingale clone I use on 9/6 job and was able to recover about half the loss before I had to head for home. The deuces quads on job were right about on schedule. Usually, when I fall back to job, the deuces quads hit on job, but not this time. I never came close to getting wiped out on the job game and a couple of quads hit when I had about 14 quarters bet. The full houses were doing pretty well too which helps a lot with a pay out of 9 for 1.
     The job martingale clone method I use doesn't rely on quads, but it helps to have the full houses come in on schedule. The highest bet I had to make on it today was 22 quarters. If I had to, I could have switched to fifty cent bets and even dollars if there was a terrible string of duds. This would require a big bankroll of about 2k which I am not willing to risk right now.
     This method for job is pretty simple. I have it listed below for anyone interested. It is no good to try unless you have a decent bank even on quarters. A hundred bucks will not cut it, but so far 500 has been all I have needed. Still pretty rich for a recreation day.
     Start by betting 5 quarters.
     Stay at 5 until you have a net of 2 losses. For example you hit 2 pair, then a pair of jacks, then 2 dud hands.
     After 2 losses at 5, bet 6. Follow the same pattern of upping your bet after 2 losses.
     Besides upping your bet, wins back down the bet for the following hands....
     Hit a Royal....quit and go home or have some fun the rest of the day.
     Hit a straight flush...Probably quit for the day, but if you want to continue, just start over at bet 5.
     Hit a quad....Back your bet down 12 units. If it were to fall below 5, bet 5.
     Hit a full house...back the bet down 4 units. If it calls for a bet below 5, bet 5.
     Hit a flush....back the bet down 3 units. Do not bet less than 5 in case the Royal Hits.
     Hit a straight....back the bet down 2 units. Do not bet less than 5.
     Hit three of a kind....back the bet down 1 unit, but not less than 5 for the next bet.
     Hit 2 pair. back the bet down 1 unit except if you hit the 2 pair right after a dud hand. In that case, keep the bet where you are.
     Hit jacks or better....Counts kinda like a push. Just keep the bet where you are.
     Hint. If you don't have machines that let you bet more than 5, this won't work.

[shadowman]

Haven't seen a post by you in a long time. Welcome Back to the forum.

Thanks, been busy with other things. Thought I'd come back to keep Eduardo honest.

[Tedlark]

[QUOTE=OTABILL] Haven't seen a post by you in a long time. Welcome Back to the forum.

Thanks, been busy with other things. Thought I'd come back to keep Eduardo honest.[/QUOTE]
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