royal with duces
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royal with duces
we should get same score for regular royal flush
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Deuce Royals happen a lot more frequently than a Royal Flush without a deuce. Therefore, the difference.
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we should get same score for regular royal flush
Why do you think that?
Why do you think that?
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Me, I wanna get a bigger score in DW or JW when I get natural quads or a SF than when it comes with a wild card...it just feels wrong to get the lower payout...
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we should get same score for regular royal flush
The pay table dictates the Estimated Value (EV) on a game. You can set any hand to any payback that you want, it will just effect the EV of the game.
Using VPW, I changed the DW RF w/deuce to 4000 for max bet, and the EV became 99.573%. If that puts the EV above 99%, it isn't going to happen in most casinos.
The pay table dictates the Estimated Value (EV) on a game. You can set any hand to any payback that you want, it will just effect the EV of the game.
Using VPW, I changed the DW RF w/deuce to 4000 for max bet, and the EV became 99.573%. If that puts the EV above 99%, it isn't going to happen in most casinos.
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Me, I wanna get a bigger score in DW or JW when I get natural quads or a SF than when it comes with a wild card...it just feels wrong to get the lower payout...
It's called Deuces deluxe.
It's called Deuces deluxe.
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Using VPW, I changed the DW RF w/deuce to 4000 for max bet, and the EV became 99.573%. If that puts the EV above 99%, it isn't going to happen in most casinos.
I don't know how you could get such a low result. I put 4000 return for a wild royal into the airport deuces (98.91%) pay scale, and it increased the return to about 335%!
I don't know how you could get such a low result. I put 4000 return for a wild royal into the airport deuces (98.91%) pay scale, and it increased the return to about 335%!
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[QUOTE=Minn. Fatz] Me, I wanna get a bigger score in DW or JW when I get natural quads or a SF than when it comes with a wild card...it just feels wrong to get the lower payout...
It's called Deuces deluxe.[/QUOTE]
Indeed it is and I have NEVER seen the game offered anywhere. The closest I have seen is "Super Bonus Deuces Wild" 40 for 1 when you make quints with only one deuce.
[QUOTE=billyjoe] Using VPW, I changed the DW RF w/deuce to 4000 for max bet, and the EV became 99.573%. If that puts the EV above 99%, it isn't going to happen in most casinos.
I don't know how you could get such a low result. I put 4000 return for a wild royal into the airport deuces (98.91%) pay scale, and it increased the return to about 335%![/QUOTE]
Yeah, this what I got too. Not sure what billyjoe did.
It's called Deuces deluxe.[/QUOTE]
Indeed it is and I have NEVER seen the game offered anywhere. The closest I have seen is "Super Bonus Deuces Wild" 40 for 1 when you make quints with only one deuce.
[QUOTE=billyjoe] Using VPW, I changed the DW RF w/deuce to 4000 for max bet, and the EV became 99.573%. If that puts the EV above 99%, it isn't going to happen in most casinos.
I don't know how you could get such a low result. I put 4000 return for a wild royal into the airport deuces (98.91%) pay scale, and it increased the return to about 335%![/QUOTE]
Yeah, this what I got too. Not sure what billyjoe did.
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[QUOTE=shadowman] [QUOTE=Minn. Fatz] Me, I wanna get a bigger score in DW or JW when I get natural quads or a SF than when it comes with a wild card...it just feels wrong to get the lower payout...
It's called Deuces deluxe.[/QUOTE]
Indeed it is and I have NEVER seen the game offered anywhere. The closest I have seen is "Super Bonus Deuces Wild" 40 for 1 when you make quints with only one deuce.
[QUOTE=billyjoe] Using VPW, I changed the DW RF w/deuce to 4000 for max bet, and the EV became 99.573%. If that puts the EV above 99%, it isn't going to happen in most casinos.
I don't know how you could get such a low result. I put 4000 return for a wild royal into the airport deuces (98.91%) pay scale, and it increased the return to about 335%![/QUOTE]
Yeah, this what I got too. Not sure what billyjoe did. [/QUOTE]
See - you all assume that I know what the heck I am doing.
This time, I started with full-pay deuces, and I got 158 % EV.
It's called Deuces deluxe.[/QUOTE]
Indeed it is and I have NEVER seen the game offered anywhere. The closest I have seen is "Super Bonus Deuces Wild" 40 for 1 when you make quints with only one deuce.
[QUOTE=billyjoe] Using VPW, I changed the DW RF w/deuce to 4000 for max bet, and the EV became 99.573%. If that puts the EV above 99%, it isn't going to happen in most casinos.
I don't know how you could get such a low result. I put 4000 return for a wild royal into the airport deuces (98.91%) pay scale, and it increased the return to about 335%![/QUOTE]
Yeah, this what I got too. Not sure what billyjoe did. [/QUOTE]
See - you all assume that I know what the heck I am doing.
This time, I started with full-pay deuces, and I got 158 % EV.
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This time, I started with full-pay deuces, and I got 158 % EV.
For full pay deuces, I get 336%.
For full pay deuces, I get 336%.