It really is this simple.....
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Re: It really is this simple.....
DaBurglar as for Carfax; it's only as good as the information that is reported to it.
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and the RNG is only as good as the casinos that operate it. for many, that RNG is operated by a company that is more than $20B in debt, has not had a reported operating profit in years, is closing properties and has filed for bankrutcy.
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Notes the casino does not operate the RNG that is inside a video poker machine.
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the casinos do not have personel that can make adjustments to any game that functions off a computer program? the casinos cannot make adjustments to existing programs? one does not have to be a computer expert to know software is updated all the time on most every device one uses. one would have to be naive to not believe a machine, which may have 'old' software, can/will be updated to enhance the casinos profit. the mistake is to believe that even if the adjustments meet regulatory requirements, that they benefit the player. a casino wants to make an adjustment to a machine, goes to reguators for approval.....who is there is speak on behalf of the players.
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notes1 ... no, the casino cannot make any legal changes to the programming of the machines. They are sealed. Now, could they do so illegally? Why would they? All they need to do is change the paytables if they want to increase their take.
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If you suspect your grocery store is selling stale bread, what do you do? You move down the street to a different grocery store. Same for casinos. If you suspect things are rigged, why the hell are you still playing there? There are literally hundreds of perfectly legitimate, perfectly straight casinos in America that are 100% content to make a decent profit off of folks who know upfront that casino games, over time, are a losing proposition. These folks also know that results are totally random and unpredictable, which is part of the appeal of casinos. My advice: take your business down the street to a legitimate casino and stop complaining.
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notes1 ... no, the casino cannot make any legal changes to the programming of the machines. They are sealed. Now, could they do so illegally? Why would they? All they need to do is change the paytables if they want to increase their take.
I've seen the RNG inside the machines and you're right, they are sealed with a protective strip, made me feel all warm and cozy. With that said I would think all casinos would strive to increase their take, wouldn't you agree. I can't speak for the area in which you play but around these parts all the casinos have been dealing with a ever decreasing number of players, players that don't attend as much and players unwilling to spend as much, those are facts. I've played video poker and slots for around 20 years now all around this part of the country and I've witnessed the decline. I used to walk the floor at different casinos just to look at all the jackpots, hit my share also. Now somewhere along the way a gradual change began to take place, it was more noticeable in slots, the jackpots seemed to become harder to find as I walked the floor and even in my results, players were still there but the excitement and possibility level felt a little drab. It got to the point I wouldn't touch a slot machine and I couldn't help but notice others had obviously made the same decision. Now there is no doubt in my mind that the area casinos changed the slots, no doubt. You bring up the idea that all the casinos have to do is lower the pay tables on video poker to increase their take but they didn't do that here, I could see that easily. What I couldn't see or understand was why my cost of playing was going up on video poker, I mean it was obvious to me that I just wasn't getting the big hits as often but why? Now Billy Joe brought up the possibility that the RNG may have indeed changed at sometime, a more random RNG may have been introduced into the game. If his idea holds water I would have to ask why, I had no problem with the old RNG, seemed random enough for me, who did they change it for? Regardless of whether Billy Joe's comment is true or not I can simply look at my results based on years end and see that I spent more money playing, I can look at the hands played and the W-2G's and see where I came up short. As it stands now I could jump in my truck right now head to the casinos and find almost empty parking lots. I could walk in 5 different casinos and only find a handful of people that were willing to gamble, players just aren't there, empty machines all over the place, chances are that I wouldn't find a single person playing video poker. Why, what happened, is it more likely that the players changed or the machines changed? I know I have certainly changed, not because I wanted to but I was more or less forced into submission. I just don't get this idea that there is no way a casino would make changes to video poker games that we can't see on the surface, they sure don't have a problem doing it with slot machines, are they not regulated also?
I've seen the RNG inside the machines and you're right, they are sealed with a protective strip, made me feel all warm and cozy. With that said I would think all casinos would strive to increase their take, wouldn't you agree. I can't speak for the area in which you play but around these parts all the casinos have been dealing with a ever decreasing number of players, players that don't attend as much and players unwilling to spend as much, those are facts. I've played video poker and slots for around 20 years now all around this part of the country and I've witnessed the decline. I used to walk the floor at different casinos just to look at all the jackpots, hit my share also. Now somewhere along the way a gradual change began to take place, it was more noticeable in slots, the jackpots seemed to become harder to find as I walked the floor and even in my results, players were still there but the excitement and possibility level felt a little drab. It got to the point I wouldn't touch a slot machine and I couldn't help but notice others had obviously made the same decision. Now there is no doubt in my mind that the area casinos changed the slots, no doubt. You bring up the idea that all the casinos have to do is lower the pay tables on video poker to increase their take but they didn't do that here, I could see that easily. What I couldn't see or understand was why my cost of playing was going up on video poker, I mean it was obvious to me that I just wasn't getting the big hits as often but why? Now Billy Joe brought up the possibility that the RNG may have indeed changed at sometime, a more random RNG may have been introduced into the game. If his idea holds water I would have to ask why, I had no problem with the old RNG, seemed random enough for me, who did they change it for? Regardless of whether Billy Joe's comment is true or not I can simply look at my results based on years end and see that I spent more money playing, I can look at the hands played and the W-2G's and see where I came up short. As it stands now I could jump in my truck right now head to the casinos and find almost empty parking lots. I could walk in 5 different casinos and only find a handful of people that were willing to gamble, players just aren't there, empty machines all over the place, chances are that I wouldn't find a single person playing video poker. Why, what happened, is it more likely that the players changed or the machines changed? I know I have certainly changed, not because I wanted to but I was more or less forced into submission. I just don't get this idea that there is no way a casino would make changes to video poker games that we can't see on the surface, they sure don't have a problem doing it with slot machines, are they not regulated also?
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Shadow mentioned one way for a casino to legally increase their take with a video poker game and another way for them to do it is to increase the amount of coin in needed to earn comp points, bounce back cash and, other benefits.
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As I have mentioned previously, casinos lower the meter rate on progressives as well. Having said that, my wife and I have also noticed that the number of quads and premium hands and thus winning sessions have decreased the last few years even though paytables are the same. We have cut down the number of VP sessions and amount of time at the machines when we are at the casino (Bingo time has increased). While luck is undoubtedly the main reason, I continue to wonder if the pseudo RNGs (as opposed to true RNGs) used in VP machines can be seeded legally to increase the likelihood of unfavorable results.
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Shadow mentioned one way for a casino to legally increase their take with a video poker game and another way for them to do it is to increase the amount of coin in needed to earn comp points, bounce back cash and, other benefits.
How many people think this will "increase the take" over the long haul? ANswer: it will not. It WILL (possibly) increase the short term take, say for a quarter, until even the most casual and clueless and carefree players see that it no longer makes sense to play at this casino......ergo the only way left for a struggling or amoral casino to squeeze a few more drops of blood from the stones on their casino floor is to make the paytables appear MORE player friendly while going in and setting the machine to spit out MORE dud-non paying hands. The proof I have for this is of the type/ilk that KO KING describes, CLEARLY decreasing wins. w-2a. jackpots. positive sessions, etc. MANY MANY players are seeing this over the past 5 years, it is not a coincidence.And simply "taking your business down the streeet" MIGHT work so long as the casino down the street is NOT in the same shape or run by the same type of people as the one you just left.On a more positive note, I will agree that, right now in AC, Borgata still appears as the best casino "down the street" to which you should take your business. So stop playing at CET properties in Atlantic city and go to Borgata.