drinking and gambling don't mix...

[Tedlark]

  

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citizens paying for legal costs can involve more than a frivolous lawsuit, the governemnt can come after you.  just this week alone, the head of IRS admitted before congress that americans had their personal monies siezed by the government, because of over reaching of the 'money laundering' act. everyone knows that a $10k cash transaction triggers a report to the irs and a possible investigation. yet, many small businesses, deal in large amounts of cash, such as flea markets, etc. without getting into all the details, these small business owners had their property seized, had to hire legal help, took a long time to correct and ended up paying those legal costs themselves.  no reimbursement. any person can take you to court, on a contingent fee from a lawyer. the government can screw up your life, and they have unlimited resources. lawyers control the entire justice system, lawyers groups overwhelming donate to a single political party (guess which one), more politicans are lawyers than any other occupation and lawyers regulate themselves.   anybody who is ok with this, would also be ok, with casino owners regulating the gaming industry.  my answer, there needs to be serious consequences against those who break the law and serious consequences against those who wrongly accuse or abuse the legal system.

[DaBurglar]

citizens paying for legal costs can involve more than a frivolous lawsuit, the governemnt can come after you.  just this week alone, the head of IRS admitted before congress that americans had their personal monies siezed by the government, because of over reaching of the 'money laundering' act. everyone knows that a $10k cash transaction triggers a report to the irs and a possible investigation. yet, many small businesses, deal in large amounts of cash, such as flea markets, etc. without getting into all the details, these small business owners had their property seized, had to hire legal help, took a long time to correct and ended up paying those legal costs themselves.  no reimbursement. any person can take you to court, on a contingent fee from a lawyer. the government can screw up your life, and they have unlimited resources. lawyers control the entire justice system, lawyers groups overwhelming donate to a single political party (guess which one), more politicans are lawyers than any other occupation and lawyers regulate themselves.   anybody who is ok with this, would also be ok, with casino owners regulating the gaming industry.  my answer, there needs to be serious consequences against those who break the law and serious consequences against those who wrongly accuse or abuse the legal system.I am ok with all this except the part where you imply lawyers donate a disproportionate amount of $$$ to the Democratic party......where did you get this information or draw this conclusion?  seriously, i am asking.......I would not be surprised if more lawyers in the USA, taken as a aggregate, are democrats, but I do not believe it is a HUGE lopsided majority......There are quite a few lawyers shilling and repping for organizations like the NRA (how do you think they are so powerful and impervious to every attempt to limit their influence?)  or the many industries which have large lobbies in washington all lean toward republican ideals (because they are PERCEIVED as more pro business)?

[Tedlark]

  Gee, do lawyers have lobbyists?

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according to AMERICAN ASSOC FOR JUSTICE website, formally known as the TRIAL LAWYERS OF AMERICA, they listed their top 300 political campaign recipients. i read all names and party affliation, EVERYONE  was a dem, except 15. that is 95% to one party, i would call that overwhelming.  as a side note, this same organization is listed as the 30th largest organization for making political campaign contributions.  as you seemed genuinely interested, it is generally understood that teachers, labor unions, lawyers contribute heavily to dems. big business, koch bros give to reps. what may be surprising to some is that wall street is split and recently, more has gone to dems.  

[Galeygoo]

[DaBurglar]

according to AMERICAN ASSOC FOR JUSTICE website, formally known as the TRIAL LAWYERS OF AMERICA, they listed their top 300 political campaign recipients. i read all names and party affliation, EVERYONE  was a dem, except 15. that is 95% to one party, i would call that overwhelming.  as a side note, this same organization is listed as the 30th largest organization for making political campaign contributions.  as you seemed genuinely interested, it is generally understood that teachers, labor unions, lawyers contribute heavily to dems. big business, koch bros give to reps. what may be surprising to some is that wall street is split and recently, more has gone to dems.  Trial lawyers I understand being overwhelmingly democratic because of the Death Penalty issue (Democrats typically oppose it and republicans favor)  But I'd really be interested in what Corporate lawyers, Tax Lawyers and several other branches/specialties think.......I'll research it after I finish winning the battle of Chancellorsville on my computer

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you think that trial lawyers are big dem campaign donors, just because of death penalty cases?!! i guarantee you that there are many more trial lawyers who go after insurance companies or other deep pocketed concerns, than those who handle death penalty cases. they donate to dems, because they are against tort reform, they want things to stay the same. how did john edwards (d) make his money.  i'll bet you believe teachers unions donate to dems, because teachers are really out for the kids and reps hate kids. teachers unions do not want school choice or vouchers. they want their jobs protected, nothing else. lawyers want their jobs protected, nothing else.  the statement you made, that takes your liberal (forget independent) point of view and turns it into a cause that appears to be for the 'good of society', means you are buying into the propaganda or too naive to see the reality of why they endorse the position they take.   now, your typical response, would be to point out all the misdeeds of the reps. let me save you the time, they too are guilty. i do not endorse all their postions.  i have identified myself as a fiscal conservative, over and over. everyone should be a fiscal conservative. live within your means, save/invest and take responsibility for your personal financial situation. and, insist the government do the same. how can anyone argue against that postion.  my big problem over the last 7 years is that there has been endless blame for all the finacial problems the country faces toward financial institutions, WITHOUT blaming the spenders. nobody held a gun to anyone's head to borrow money.