Winning Play Strategy/System

[wildman49]

Playing a system beats them long bad streaks going home broke of a big amount and wondering why you went or even still play VP in the first place taking all the fun out of it. For 2015 I have made 27 trips, playing single coin (phil's) system 95% of the time.Coin in as of today $103,000 for 2015. Down $430 this year or $16 per trip. Since playing the system full time over the past 5 months I am still up over 2k.With Gas cards, Food vouchers, Free play, and them free rooms I get, this casino is going to lose money on me all year long.

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=onemoretry]So, to suggest that changing denominations or the number of credits
wagered can turn a negative game into a positive one is wishful
thinking.[/quote]There is no strategy that can change the odds of a negative expectation game to positive.  That said, think about this.  Suppose you play the Cheap Strategy for a month.  This doesn't necessarily mean you will be ahead, but you will reduce your losses to a very controllable level.  You also make it a habit to take your daily winnings (if any) and play max coin dollars with it.  One time during the month, you hit a max coin dollar quad deuce for $1,000 (totally possible).  You are now up $1,000 minus your losses while playing Cheap.  You stash the $1,000  in your safe and go back to playing the Cheap Strategy as before.  As you can see in this example, you don't need many high denomination jackpots to stay ahead.

[VP_vp]

Only play a few times (2-4?) a year. So I'm a recreational player, but I still look for FPDW machines. I just wouldn't play VP if I go to a place w/o FPDW. So I guess game selection is my "winning strategy".

[mdmick67]

A betting system does have some benefits, and Florida Phil has pointed them out.

What a system cannot do, however, particularly in the long run, is change the game's return. So, to suggest that changing denominations or the number of credits wagered can turn a negative game into a positive one is wishful thinking. [/QUOTE]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Another successful trip. Just returned from a business trip and a casino stop in Louisiana. On Monday this week I had a room comped at my favorite casino in Louisiana (Coushatta) After checking in i managed to get down to the casino floor by 3pm. This trip I decided to play my 5 low level system starting at $.05, $.10, $.25, $.50, and up and thru $1.00. Playing only BP and DDBP. I played for 9 hours before quitting for the day. During all my play I never had to depend on playing up to and thru the $1.00 level. Most of my good bonus wins came at  the $.10, $.25 and $.50 levels putting me back to my starting level of $.05. After cashing out for the evening I put $285. of the casinos money in my pocket and went to my room, leaving the next morning... Although I don't count my comps they are sure a nice add on benefit,  always a free room, food and some free play money.one of the things that I like about my 5 level system, is the fact that I always play max coins. That way when the Royal does hit I always get 4000 coins. I won't knock any kind of system that works, from single coin to whatever. When you can finely break away from always losing at playing one level and start walking out with some of the casino money instead, then it becomes a lot more fun and profitable.Now as for the nonbelievers. As far as I'm concerned this is not just wishful thinking. It's called finely winning!! I don't care what the math says or what the so called experts have to say about it. My system works for me and It sounds like some of the other fine people on here are having good success with their systems as well.

[mdmick67]

Playing a system beats them long bad streaks going home broke of a big amount and wondering why you went or even still play VP in the first place taking all the fun out of it. For 2015 I have made 27 trips, playing single coin (phil's) system 95% of the time.Coin in as of today $103,000 for 2015. Down $430 this year or $16 per trip. Since playing the system full time over the past 5 months I am still up over 2k.With Gas cards, Food vouchers, Free play, and them free rooms I get, this casino is going to lose money on me all year long.

Way to go Wildman  you are the man   Seriously you are so right about what you are saying here. It's time to stop always losing and finely turn things around.

[MPD001]

[quote=onemoretry]So, to suggest that changing denominations or the number of credits
wagered can turn a negative game into a positive one is wishful thinking.There is no strategy that can change the odds of a negative expectation game to positive.  [/QUOTE]
I disagree. Just like in BlackJack, to win you must vary your bet, this approach is similar. You hope to hit a premium hand with max coins in, just like in BlackJack, hitting a winning hand when your bet is increased.

BlackJack played at the same denomination is a long-tern loser, just like most VP games.

[alpax]

[QUOTE=FloridaPhil]

[quote=onemoretry]So, to suggest that changing denominations or the number of credits
wagered can turn a negative game into a positive one is wishful thinking.There is no strategy that can change the odds of a negative expectation game to positive.  [/QUOTE]
I disagree. Just like in BlackJack, to win you must vary your bet, this approach is similar. You hope to hit a premium hand with max coins in, just like in BlackJack, hitting a winning hand when your bet is increased.

BlackJack played at the same denomination is a long-tern loser, just like most VP games. [/QUOTE]

There is a difference between betting high when you are counting cards and the count is high (more low cards 2,3,4,5 have appeared than high ones 10,J,Q,K) than just randomly betting high. When cards are dealt from the shoe, it is a dependant probability space. Video Poker is all independant from each hand dealt.

But you are correct about your second statement by playing BJ at the same denomination all the time will be a long time loser.

[MPD001]

[QUOTE=MPD001] [QUOTE=FloridaPhil]

[quote=onemoretry]So, to suggest that changing denominations or the number of credits
wagered can turn a negative game into a positive one is wishful thinking.There is no strategy that can change the odds of a negative expectation game to positive.  [/QUOTE]
I disagree. Just like in BlackJack, to win you must vary your bet, this approach is similar. You hope to hit a premium hand with max coins in, just like in BlackJack, hitting a winning hand when your bet is increased.

BlackJack played at the same denomination is a long-tern loser, just like most VP games. [/QUOTE]

There is a difference between betting high when you are counting cards and the count is high (more low cards 2,3,4,5 have appeared than high ones 10,J,Q,K) than just randomly betting high. When cards are dealt from the shoe, it is a dependant probability space. Video Poker is all independant from each hand dealt.

But you are correct about your second statement by playing BJ at the same denomination all the time will be a long time loser.[/QUOTE]
I said 'similar' - not 'identical'. In reality, most casinos have taken the card-counting opportunity in BlackJack away. They reshuffle at about one third of the shoe, and in single or double deck, they reshuffle after every hand.

The last 'real' opportunity that I had seen was a $25 BlackJack table on a cruise ship, dealing single deck. The stakes were too high for most folks, so you could basically play heads-up against the dealer, and play two or three spots. You could get several deals from the deck between shuffles, so deal three and up gave you a chance to push your bet if the count was correct.

[FAA]

I'll never be one of those people who just serenely play same denomination on auto pilot. I would be a low roller bust waiting to happen. But it's hard to accept the $12 chump change quad for two quarters a dozen hands in.

[mdmick67]

I'll never be one of those people who just serenely play same denomination on auto pilot. I would be a low roller bust waiting to happen. But it's hard to accept the $12 chump change quad for two quarters a dozen hands in.

A win is a win no matter the amount. It's always a lot more fun when at the end of your casino visit you end up with some of the their money for a change.