full pay Deuces wild

[robertincal]

One group says only keep suited JQ,J10, Q10.Another group says include AK. What do you say and why.

[Webman]

When dealt a suited AK, the expected value is best when throwing them all away (in deuces wild).
 
The problem with Ace King is you have a lower chance at a straight /  straight flush than with the other combinations. Jacks or better won't get you anything and you have to hit the royal for anything more than a small win. You are actually almost (but not quite) as well off keeping one of your other individual cards. At least you then also have a better shot at a quad or 5 of a kind. By tossing them all you buy yourself a chance at: Royal, 4 Deuces, Royal with Deuces, 5 of a kind . . . pretty much anything. Your odds of coming away with something good holding the AK in this game aren't great.
 
The odds really aren't that drastically different holding them or throwing all 5 away. It's not a very good starting hand, but throwing them does have the edge.

[shadowman]

One group says only keep suited JQ,J10, Q10.Another group says include AK. What do you say and why.
 
Webman provided some logic that can is used to make these decisions. However, I'm not sure who you are referring to as "groups". Every strategy decision is based on the paytable of the game you are playing. There are many deuces wild paytables and no one should state strategy choices without providing the paytable. Maybe these "groups" were referring to different deuces games.
 
For example, I play some NSUD which pays more for a flush than FPDW. As a result you should hold king high RF2s as well as the queen and jack high ones. But, the NSUD I play also has a progressive on the RF. So, as the RF progressive value increases it passes a point where the ace high RF2 becomes better than the redraw.
 
Progressives are very good examples of how the paytable impacts strategy. We can all see how a bigger payback on the RF makes certain holds stronger. However, this same effect holds true for all pays. Increasing the flush return as in NSUD is just another case where the paytable rules.
 
So, back to your question, for standard FPDW you almost always hold queen and jack high RF2s and never hold ace high RF2s. You generally hold king high RF2s only if you have no straight or flush penalties. The 'why" is easy. The choices are determined by which hold has the best average payback across all possible draws.
 

[jm002546]

I am also playing JT better than inside st and 3 to sf, 2 inside.  I believe thatis an additional improvement to simple strategy???

[shadowman]

Yes it is.

[royal flush]

i guess gold coast put back the fpdw, which is good since harrah's are all under 98% and we will all lose our diamond cards as before they had 9/6 job and 98.91 5 play 25c deuces to run  off points to get diamond room comps

[Benford's Law]

Not meaning to hijack the thread away from the FPDW topic but.....
The general trend of all Harrah's VP paytables over the last 5 years has been.....down, down, down........D-O-W-N!
 
Harrah's VP sucks!  Otherwise they're lovely casinos to look at, though...ambience/amenities are still good.
 
~Benford's Law