This "Marine" exercised his 2nd amendment rights!

[DaBurglar]

https://gma.yahoo.com/marine-arrested-s ... .html#Such a crucial......CRUCIAL issue here folks!!!!     This MArine clearly needed to pack a gun to protect himself from this 20 year old young lady, as his right to bear arms was far, FAR more important that the young 20 year old lady's right to not be shot and to continue living her life....His right to bear arms was far far more important than her family's right to have their daughter/sister/niece/cousin around for another day at least, right?Seriously, help me out here all our gun experts and weaponologists......help me make sense of this.    Where is Casino knight when we need him....as a former Marine, and as someone who bears lots of arms, I want to know what he makes of this situation, this scene, this "Marine" who felt threatened by this pretty young girl to the point where his only option was to fire his gun in her face......

[Tedlark]

DaBurglar tragedy happens in all shapes and forms. If a person dies of injuries inflicted to them by a loose dog does this mean that dogs should be outlawed?

Where in the article you linked did it say that the suspect OWNED the gun that was fired?

To me this is not a Second Amendment issue. This is a substance abuse issue. As also reported in the article: Denton police are still in the early stages of the investigation.

All victims of senseless violence need to be remembered: not just those who's lives have been impacted by the use of a gun.

[DaBurglar]

DaBurglar tragedy happens in all shapes and forms. If a person dies of injuries inflicted to them by a loose dog does this mean that dogs should be outlawed?
again.......HUH????    What on earth does that prove or demonstrate?  the issue is GUN violence and GUN COMTROL (or lack thereof).....You could trip on the way to toilet, smash your head on the cabinet and die......that is not the issue.      Tragedy is not the issue.....Ways people die is not the issue......GUNS are the issue because they are designed to make it EASIER to injure or kill a person (whether in self defense or self indulgence, the purpose of a handgun is clear.....) Where in the article you linked did it say that the suspect OWNED the gun that was fired?I do not know......does it say anywhere the gun was HIS and legally registered?   What is your point here?    Given that this happened in TEXAS, where ANYONE can own a gun (or buy one), and given it was a MARINE, I tend to think the gun was more "LEGAL" than not, but who know.....either way it only reinforces my personal point, because if it was ILLEGAL, then that emphasizes the need for the government to make some effort to curtail ILLEGAL firearms......Saving lives and preventing "tragedy" as you want to call it, seems like a suitable, even CORRECT, purpose for  "GOVERNMENT" wouldnt you say?    
To me this is not a Second Amendment issue. This is a substance abuse issue. As also reported in the article: Denton police are still in the early stages of the investigation?????   based on what?     You are ok telling the 20 year old girl's family that Booze killed her?   You are ok telling her POT, or COKE, or Methamphetamine is the reason she is dead, even though the girl was not the actual user?     Real slick Tedlark.....you'd make a great grief counselor...."Sorry folks. Sh*t happens....".

All victims of senseless violence need to be remembered: not just those who's lives have been impacted by the use of a gun.
I do not recall anyone suggesting, either in this article, or anywhere else, that ONLY gun victims deserve to be memorialized or grieved......so again, a pointless, POINTLESS non-issue that is in keeping with how PRO GUN, Anti-Gun control people try to argue whatever point-dujour they are making.....you just refuse to even consider that something, SOMETHING can or should be done to try to curb these senseless deaths even a little.....I FREELY admit that responsible, law abiding people have the right to own a gun.....I just feel that like all other potentially dangerous items, substances and things that require some sort of oversight and regulation that GUNS too fall into this category.   Why could  you possible disagree with that, or the fact that SOME people should NOT be allowed to have or own guns????

[Tedlark]

DaBurglar I do not disagree that some people should not be allowed to have or own guns. Do you have any clue on the number of illegal guns in any city of the United States? It doesn't even need to be a major metropolitan area such as New York, Chicago or Los Angeles either, it could be anytown USA. When a gun is stolen from the home of a responsible gun owner and the gun then goes out onto the street, whoever is in possession of the now Illegal gun DOES NOT deserve Second Amendment protection.

Again; someone takes a viewpoint that you don't like so your typical response is to get nasty.

And you should actually take the time to investigate Texas gun laws and Arizona (the accused was from Yuma ARIZONA) gun laws and you would see that Arizona gun laws aren't nearly as strict as Texas. Furthermore, if the accused DID own the murder weapon and was carrying it in Texas he may very well have been in violation of Texas gun laws. If I travel to another state and I have a gun in my possession it is UP TO ME to make sure I abide by whatever laws may be in place in the state(s) I may be in when I am in possession of said gun. If I do not: then I do so at my own risk and I would not then be, a RESPONSIBLE gun owner.

[Casino Knight]

I'm right here DB., and I'm saddened no end by senseless loss of life of that little girl, just as I was when that illegal alien murdered that little girl in California. Making it worse for me was the fact that the murderer was a Marine. Hopefully Texas justice will be swift and punitive, just as it was for Lee Harvey Oswald and Charlie Whitman, also Marines.

Personally, I believe there is real evil in this world and chose not to be victim if humanly possible.

I'll keep my guns, thank you very much, and treat it like my American Express Card. I won't leave home without it!

I encourage you to do the same.

CK   

[DaBurglar]

I'm right here DB., and I'm saddened no end by senseless loss of life of that little girl, just as I was when that illegal alien murdered that little girl in California. Making it worse for me was the fact that the murderer was a Marine. Hopefully Texas justice will be swift and punitive, just as it was for Lee Harvey Oswald and Charlie Whitman, also Marines.

Personally, I believe there is real evil in this world and chose not to be victim if humanly possible.

I'll keep my guns, thank you very much, and treat it like my American Express Card. I won't leave home without it!

I encourage you to do the same.

CK   
I don't understand what the problem here is......I really honestly do not have any issue with either YOU or what you seem to represent or do........However, I do not understand your statement "I choose(sic) not to be a victim if possible...."    Ok, well I am with you there, I myself also would never "CHOOSE" to be a victim either, and I would hazard a guess that MOST people feel this way too.     I just do not see how arming oneself to the point where you feel the need to carry a gun 24/7 is going to tilt the balance of uncertainty that exists in the world even slightly MORE in favor of you not becoming a "victim", simply because such personal action/policy can cause JUST as much tragedy and problems as it might solve......and truthfully, the ONLY positive "solution" or outcome that results from a person carrying a gun 24/7 is that they plug a would be attacker before the attacker plugs them...that is it.   On the other hand, the number of scenarios (or outcomes) that might result in something tragic, unintended and just plain "bad" happening to someone carrying a gun 24/7 are too numerous to mention here......from a pure math standpoint, I'll go with favoring MORE people being LESS armed.And while I have no problem with your obvious personal feelings toward the marine who killed the little girl (I even agree with them to a point),   I do not agree, or understand your mentioning "TEXAS JUSTICE"  and Lee Harvey Oswald....?     Oswald did not receive justice, nor did the nation, nor did the Kennedy family, when he was gunned down on live TV in front of hundreds of immeidate onlookers, as well as an estimated 50 million TV viewers around the world, in perhaps the greatest single incidence of police incompetence and law enforcement ineptitude in human history.Personally, I think Oswald got off incredibly easy and light but that's just my "bleeding heart" talking, right?

[jetermacaw]

"A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again."

[DaBurglar]

"A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again."

A parachute cannot be used by criminals (or sick demented mentally ill people) to commit crimes, or harm others.    Stupid analogy, and typical of the distortive arguments of the zealous gun lobby.I totally support the right of people to own a gun AS LONG as they are not a criminal or mentally ill.   I believe thorough background checks are essential when someone applies for a license, and I believe all GUN dealers, whether full time or merely once every few months at shows & conventions, need to be vetted thoroughly and need to be held to responsible standards when it comes to WHOM they sell guns to.....   These are common sense measures and do NOT prevent any responsible law abiding citizen from owning a gun and protecting themselves.....why these measures are routinely opposed by the gun lobby & NRA is beyond me.   

[Tedlark]

DaBurglar there you go again, saying that was a "stupid" analogy.

If you UNDERSTAND the analogy it is actually a quite good comparison. If you need a parachute because you are falling out of the sky but if you don't have said parachute when you are falling out of the sky; you will die because you didn't have a parachute.

If you are ever in a situation where a person with evil intent had a gun pointed at you but you didn't have a gun to point back at them; you will die because you didnt have a gun.

[Casino Knight]

[/QUOTE]A parachute cannot be used by criminals (or sick demented mentally ill people) to commit crimes, or harm others. [/QUOTE]

D.B. Cooper used a parachute. He's a criminal.