6 month report of 2016 Just added full year 1/2/17

The lighter side... playing for entertainment, less concerned about "the math."
wildman49
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6 month report of 2016 Just added full year 1/2/17

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Half of the year is over and I put together this report. My goal is to play break even for a full year. I came close last year losing only $1200.00. Years back much worse. Did not track.I played 80% quarter JOB single line with a little DW and BDX in the other 20%. I don't play DDB or TDB as I can't do them bankroll swings. My bankroll for the year is 2k If I lose it I am done for the year.When I get falling back to even , I tend to hit the 20 coin nickels to fight it off. There is only one thing I hate more then losing money is losing MY money. Meaning when I have the casinos money I play a little heavy. When I get back on my dime I back off my bets and less trips till things turn.Total trips to the casino 73Coin in $226,600.00Comps (free play) played $3570.00Royals total 6 ( $2000, 3 at $1000, $400,$40)Straight Flush's (non wild card) 17 Lowest point in bankroll Feb.3 $750.00Highest point in bankroll April 13  $2670.00Other goodies 6 gas cards total value $225.00,24 food vouchers total value $600.00,Free rooms used 2  value ???Free gifts, concert tickets elt. value ???I am at this point up $880.00 So far so good. I went on a bad losing streak trip after trip in early MAY and into June. It's going to happen. Yesterdays play was 11k coin in, 10 hours play betting quarters/fifty-cent left up $100 so for now am holding my own.The number one thing that has helped a lot is I practice every day. Holding the right cards is the key.GOOD LUCK TO ALL THE SECOND HALF OF 2016!




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Post by Tedlark »

Thanks for sharing wildman, it was interesting reading. My only comment centers around where you wrote, that:

"when I have the casinos money I play a little heavy."


You should re-think that only because if you have won it, the money is yours and no longer the casinos. I have heard players say this before, for example when they hit a royal or some other well paying hand. Even if just getting the meter up on small hits. They will say they are playing on the casino's money so losing a couple hundred, or more, won't mean as much because "it's the casino's money." Once you won it, the money is yours.

Even if you are playing with freeplay or something of that nature; I'd suggest staying at a comfortable denomination and stretching play to optimize your chances of hitting a premium hand.

Good luck to you in the 2nd half of the year.

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thanks for the report, I really enjoy stuff like this.

it does seem to me from checking paytables and reading others posts, that if one plays JOB and DW, one can get a lot more play in, for a reasonable outlay.

those who play DDB/TDB (like myself), on the paytables available to many of us, need to know and accept the swings and the more likely potential loss. for some, the excitement is worth the cost. if I went 73 times in 6 months, I would likely play JOB.

my own opinion and experience is that the machines have not been as ruthless the last 2 years, as they were from 2010-2014. variance, maybe. or, maybe something else.

after the downgrading of paytables and comps, I believe many have now settled into a new routine of type of game to play, changed their denomination, their length of time in the casino and their expectations. in other words, those who want to continue playing, have made the necessary adjustments, to meet their bankroll or loss limits.

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I agree with Noites1 and Tedlark in all that they said so I will not simply repeat what they wrote.....but, excellent post WILDMAN!!!!   And thank you for the effort (I know from personal experience it is not EASY composing a detailed post like this one, and for little personal benefit!)Am I correct in concluding the second Royal pictured in your post (the second one down, in SPADES)  was actually a DEALT royal?!?!  I see no "HELD/HOLD" above any cards......unless you got it on a total throwaway?!?!?!?!?    Also, I am totally glad to see you actually caught a couple of your Royals on BALLYs machines (the "newer style Ballys", not the older late 1990s "plink plink plink" style machines)......in AC there are not that many of these types of machines as a whole, and the casinos that I am aware of that have the few in AC are TROPICANA,  Trump Taj (only 5 or 6 I think in the whole casino),   And MAYBE.....MAYBE Borgata has a few.....that is it!      


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[quote=Tedlark]"when I have the casinos money I play a little heavy."
You should re-think that only because if you have won it, the
money is yours and no longer the casinos. I have heard players say this
before, for example when they hit a royal or some other well paying
hand. Even if just getting the meter up on small hits. They will say
they are playing on the casino's money so losing a couple hundred, or
more, won't mean as much because "it's the casino's money." Once you won
it, the money is yours.[/quote]This is excellent advice should you decide to take it. The problem is most players play for excitement and the thrill of a big hit motivates us to do things we know is not the best option.  If you are going to play at the higher denomination, you need a bankroll to support it.  If you don't the casino will bust you most of the time and you will lose more than if you stayed at the lower denomination.  Been there, done that....  





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Am I correct in concluding the second Royal pictured in your post (the second one down, in SPADES)  was actually a DEALT royal?!?!  I see no "HELD/HOLD" above any cards......unless you got it on a total throwaway?!?!?!?!?    Also, I am totally glad to see you actually caught a couple of your Royals on BALLYs machines (the "newer style Ballys", not the older late 1990s "plink plink plink" style machines)

Yes it was a 5 card throwaway royal. The Bally Machines play easy and fast, I can play 900 to 1000 hands an hour on them.




[quote=Tedlark]"when I have the casinos money I play a little heavy."
You should re-think that only because if you have won it, the
money is yours and no longer the casinos. I have heard players say this
before, for example when they hit a royal or some other well paying
hand. Even if just getting the meter up on small hits. They will say
they are playing on the casino's money so losing a couple hundred, or
more, won't mean as much because "it's the casino's money." Once you won
it, the money is yours.This is excellent advice should you
decide to take it. The problem is most players play for excitement and
the thrill of a big hit motivates us to do things we know is not the
best option.  If you are going to play at the higher denomination, you
need a bankroll to support it.  If you don't the casino will bust you
most of the time and you will lose more than if you stayed at the lower
denomination.  Been there, done that....  




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I have learned so much about the game from this site and all of you guys here and I thank you all!I still have things to learn, and picking the right betting amount is my weak spot. I played everything from 5 nickels to 5 dollars and everything in between. I guess thats why I am called the Wildman




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Post by notes1 »

I/m/o, one can play VP games that offer more excitement and still be disciplined. if one sets a loss limit and sticks to it, that's discipline. not 'chasing', staying with the same denomination instead of increasing one's bet, leaving when ahead, are all examples of discipline. do as ted did, win and go sleep in his car.

for me, at this point in my life, I would choose less play over less excitement. others have selected different methods to survive today's casino odds. some have chosen to stop playing, I give them credit. that is the choice each player needs to make. only the foolish or addicted do not adapt.

it's called personal responsibility.

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   it's called personal responsibility. Totally Works for me.....One obvious problem, or issue though, is that CASINOS themselves, and all that they promote, and how they are operated and what takes place within them,  FLY completely in the face of the underlying principles and application(s) of the philosophy this statement implies and entails.    In other words, I could see certain people arguing that a committed proponent for personal responsibility would not spend ANYTIME in such places as casinos.....I am NOT such a person, but there are potential conflicts and inconsistencies and even, dare I say it......Hypocrisy?

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Post by olds442jetaway »

Great job and analysis.

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[QUOTE=notes1]   it's called personal responsibility. Totally Works for me.....One obvious problem, or issue though, is that CASINOS themselves, and all that they promote, and how they are operated and what takes place within them,  FLY completely in the face of the underlying principles and application(s) of the philosophy this statement implies and entails.    In other words, I could see certain people arguing that a committed proponent for personal responsibility would not spend ANYTIME in such places as casinos.....I am NOT such a person, but there are potential conflicts and inconsistencies and even, dare I say it......Hypocrisy?[/QUOTE]

where is the conflict?

if someone wants to get drunk everyday, do illegal drugs, over eat, smoke I could care less. as long as they do not hurt anyone else, have health insurance, do not ask for a bailout/assistance, that is their decision.

the most avid liberals I meet, do not understand the difference between choice and responsibility for the choices one makes. in their mind, if something is allowed, such as getting a loan, then, if they do not pay, it is the fault of the lender, not the borrower.

this is the crux of most of our problems. just because something is allowed, just because we live in a country where one is free to choose, does not mean they abdicate their responsibility, once the choice is made.

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