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[jetermacaw]

O and H calling for the immediate curtailment of truck sales in the US based on the incident in Nice France.

[DaBurglar]

3500 homecides in Chicago since O became POTUS, crickets, a cop rightly or wrongly we don't know yet and if wrongly prosecute to the fullest extent of the law, and he has to have a news conference telling us how persecuted minority's are by police. To some simple minded idiot, he's giving them too much food for thought.I get the point you are trying to make here.....I do not see how this makes him responsible for the 5 dead cops in dallas, but I agree that he could have done or said more about BLACK ON BLACK (or Latino on Latino(  or Minority on Minority  CRIME......But Obama, or WHOEVER is president, is NOT responsible for the crime(s) in any and every Town or City in the USA.     People tend to give TOO MUCH credit and TOO Much BLAME for Presidents when they are in office.......it just like a Manager in Baseball or a coach in Football or BAsketball:  When the team wins he is praised as some kind of genius, and if the team sucks or loses, then the coach is a moron and is blamed for EVERYTHING......you know this is true!   But the truth, or reality, is this:   Coaches, or Presidents, are just a one single solitary Human Being and there is ONLY so much that each person can do or be responsible for.....the 3500 murders in Chicago the last 7 years are mainly the work of GANGS fighting over the DRUG trade, and they are emblematic of the ongoing, pointlessly FAILING  War on DRUGS that the US Government (and every state and city government) continues to fight.    Until or unless we can convince the 20% of the US Population that uses illegal drugs to STOP snorting, shooting and smoking all that Sh*t, the HOMICIDES in CHicago, as well as everywhere else. will keep going up.    You know this is true too!    I blame Obama for NOT trying to come up with a different, or better approach to addressing the problem of drugs in this country.   How can we spend 600 Billion a year on Defense, on expensive weapons and planes and missles and Ice Cream Makers that operate in 110 degree Iraqi Heat, and yet we cannot stop these vicious yet STUPID drug cartels just across our border?     Because, TRUTHFULLY.....if a president, whether it is OBAMA or someone else, wanted to REALLY do something about all those drug-related murders in chicago, they'd be smart to do something about the Drug Cartels supplying the Gangs IN the city of Chicago with DRUGS ....and that happens to be the Mexican cartels!        And no......simply building a "VERY BIG....HUGE......so HUGE"  W A L L  is not the answer, lol

[DaBurglar]

O and H calling for the immediate curtailment of truck sales in the US based on the incident in Nice France.I missed that one.....can someone elaborate on this story for me?     I remember the terror attacks in France, but how or what did TRUCK sales have to do with anything ???I will pre-emptively say that politicians or presidents doing KNEE JERK reactions to EVERY SINGLE terrorist incident around the world is BAD, and is exactly what the Terrorists want to see happen.   This is how we ended up with the "PATRIOT ACT", one of the most ANTI-Constitution acts of legislation ever processed by a US Congress, and an example of what happens when a President caves in to both personal & public hysteria, fear and prejudice!But remember this, EVERYONE!    If......IF, suppose, a terror organization like ISIS just decided to take a YEAR off to recharge, regroup. and NO ONE heard a peep or anything from them for 12 to 16 months;    !2-16 months go by with NO attacks, no bombs, no death or destruction.....at the end of those 16 months, what do you think you would be "HEARING"  from politicians like Obama, or Hillary, or hell from even DOnald Trump??     Answer:   They would ALL be harping, taking and claiming credit and responsibility for "bringing terror to its knees", for "Stopping those bad guys"  etc.  You know it......

[notes1]

one does not need to be in law enforcement to know if someone is murdered, the first people the cops look at are spouse, family, friends, etc. this is not profiling or racism, it is math. why, because history says the odds favor certain folks over others.

if crime happens more in one area over another, it is logical that police are going to concentrate their forces in that high crime area. if crime occurs more in black neighborhoods (and it does), the cops are going to be more likely to pull over/check out residents of that area. I understand the feeling of being felt 'picked on'. but, what is the alternative? because crime happens more in certain areas, the cops are going to be concerned for their own safety. they are humans, they also have fear.

if the same group, over and over, causes terrorist events, it is only logical to concentrate our efforts on that area. this is not racism, it is math.

if any group does not like being profiled, I have a simple solution. stop committing crimes more than other groups.

as far as Obama and H having some responsibility for the crime (which after years of falling has started to rise), the terrorism, the divisiveness, they certainly have some responsibility. if ISIS had been destroyed early on, instead of being labeled a JV team, they would not be as effective as they are today. if every problem in this country were not used as a way to get votes, expand their progressive agenda, blame every problem someone has on someone else, to pit one group against another, we would not be in the shape we are in today.

I am tired of the political correctness, the pussy footing around with criminals/terrorists and I am tired of listening to the liberal elite telling us we are somehow responsible.

they had their faults, but I sure wish bush/cheney were fighting this terrorist war, instead of O and H. I felt safer then.

[DaBurglar]

one does not need to be in law enforcement to know if someone is murdered, the first people the cops look at are spouse, family, friends, etc. this is not profiling or racism, it is math. why, because history says the odds favor certain folks over others.

if crime happens more in one area over another, it is logical that police are going to concentrate their forces in that high crime area. if crime occurs more in black neighborhoods (and it does), the cops are going to be more likely to pull over/check out residents of that area. I understand the feeling of being felt 'picked on'. but, what is the alternative? because crime happens more in certain areas, the cops are going to be concerned for their own safety. they are humans, they also have fear.

if the same group, over and over, causes terrorist events, it is only logical to concentrate our efforts on that area. this is not racism, it is math.

if any group does not like being profiled, I have a simple solution. stop committing crimes more than other groups.

as far as Obama and H having some responsibility for the crime (which after years of falling has started to rise), the terrorism, the divisiveness, they certainly have some responsibility. if ISIS had been destroyed early on, instead of being labeled a JV team, they would not be as effective as they are today. if every problem in this country were not used as a way to get votes, expand their progressive agenda, blame every problem someone has on someone else, to pit one group against another, we would not be in the shape we are in today.

I am tired of the political correctness, the pussy footing around with criminals/terrorists and I am tired of listening to the liberal elite telling us we are somehow responsible.

they had their faults, but I sure wish bush/cheney were fighting this terrorist war, instead of O and H. I felt safer then.no you did not "feel safer", you are just saying this now to justify how you feel right NOW.....seriously, what does it feel like to "feel safe"?    What did Bush and Cheney do that made you feel safe???   You are totally unwilling to acknowledge that this entire situation is THEIR FAULT......THEY made this happen and we have been dealing with it ever since.    Dont even try to justify or deny it because you cannot without totally LYING (like they did)  and totally twisting the truth (like they did).   You obviously need another history lesson, but dont worry, I wont inflict it on you and force you to read it......and this statement about "If a group does not like PROFILING" then stop committing crimes more than other groups"?????      Justification of prejudice......that is all this is.....and its not the "GROUP" committing the crimes you speak of, it is individuals.    You are able to speak this baloney because you do not happen to belong to such a group that is undergoing this "profiling" (talk about euphemisms, jesus)"Liberal elite"...who the flip are you talking about?????    How about the CONSERVATIVE ELITE (White millionaires mostly) who have successfully hijacked the republican party and turned it into a hopeless, incompetent dysfunctional joke simply so that they can keep, and acquire MORE, of their wealth....we wont even talk about how they might have acquired that wealth in the first place.....The "SPIRIT" of your posts oozes anger and arrogance and all kinds of other negative vibes so if you want to accuse me of the same, go ahead but its only because people like you (and there are a LOT of you) throw that crap out there.Obama Sucks, so does Hillary, but they suck FAR FAR LESS than the republicans currently do, its that simple, and that is where I am coming from.    It sucks that everyone and every choice SUCKS, but sadly that is what we have, different levels of suckiness.......You cannot see it but yours is the way fascism takes root.......actually if you'd just acknowledge that we need a new, third party alternative in this country, I'd stop posting this type of stuff altogether.

[notes1]

YOU, are the liberal/progressive elite.

terrorists attacked the USA while Clinton was in the white house. world trade center, remember.

yes, I felt safer, during previous administration. how many attacks happened here, when they were in control.

is it prejudice or it just math/statistics?

[DaBurglar]

YOU, are the liberal/progressive elite.

terrorists attacked the USA while Clinton was in the white house. world trade center, remember.

yes, I felt safer, during previous administration. how many attacks happened here, when they were in control.

is it prejudice or it just math/statistics?so you are saying that the reason the terrorists (who were confirmed morons and idiots) in 1993 attacked the WTC then was because of Bill clinton???   Seriously, unless that is your point, that statement is a profile in ignorance and simplistic thinking because it hurts your brain to try and think it out, about what really is going on and why......You sling the term "liberal/progressive elite " around as an insult because you are narrow minded and simple enough to believe it is an insult.     While I categorically deny your attempt to "profile" me thusly, I will freely admit those WORDS......liberal   PROGRESSIVE    ELITE   all have positive connotations and meanings to many people, even me (depending on the context of course.)You are now using "Math/Stats"  to justify your prejudices and narrow wrong views.....what math?  what Stats?   attempting to credit Bush/cheney with preventing things like what?   the San Bernadino X-mas massacre?    The Gay niteclub nassacre?Who committed those crimes?   Sick weirdos who conveniently found a label to apply (islamic terrorist)  that justifies their heinous actions instead of "Closeted Frustrated Gay Man who cannot accept himself",  or disillusioned couple who are P'O'd that they cannot afford a new house (because republicans wrecked the economy.)      Ridiculous......I'd be more accepting if you blamed the internet and today's connected world instead of specific individual politicians because at least that would make sense.    The reason (one reason) there were not as many attacks in 2002-2008  than after is obvious.....there was no FACEBOOK or twitter or all the many MANY MANY ways, devices, websites etc etc  that we have today......there were some but not nearly as prolific, and that is how some jerkoff in some small town in mainland USA connects with jerkoffs in the middle of Iraq or Syria.    Dont delude or kid yourself......You dont need a history lesson, you need to learn how to interpret and UNDERSTAND HISTORY.   You look back and think what happened was inevitable, that always someone was in control, someone was to blame, etc.    In your world, NOTHING ever "just happens", no accidents, no mistakes........this is what happens when you take PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY as a religion.  

[notes1]

never blamed Clinton for first wtc attack, simply pointed it all started before bush was in office, defeating your assertion that bush/cheney are responsible for all that has happened.

common signs of a liberal;
-when out debated, resort to name calling
-when out argued, change the subject
-when defeated, assert the subject matter is too complicated for ordinary folks to understand

are you sure you did not get that Harvard degree via mail order?

[billryan]

Some math.
Over 3,000 civilians and well over 5,000 military died on Bush's watch.
Is the count anywhere near that under Obama.
I'd also say less police have been killed under Obama than Bush, as well as less civilians.
Buy you feel less safe.

[notes1]

I should have stated, under bush, other than 9/11. nearly all the civilian casualties you mentioned resulted from that single event. there have been multiple events under current administration and while I hope nothing more happens, there are still 6 months to go.

if one takes all the military out of Iraq, you will most definitely cut down on casualties there. how many have died around the globe as a result of letting the terrorists have free reign. if one does not fight them on their turf, you will end up fighting them on your own.

other than 9/11, I would like to see your source for more cops and civilians killed at home under bush than Obama. over 3500 have been murdered in Chicago alone, since O took office.