new VP promotion

[notes1]

for any casino willing to offer a theoretical positive machine, how about this promo, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO EARN MORE ON YOUR MONEY PLAYING VP, THAN YOU GET HAVING YOUR MONEY IN THE BANK. if worded correctly, it could be true.

in some countries, japan, Sweden, Germany and others, even a negative returning machine, could get you more than one can earn in the bank.

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=notes1]


for any casino willing to offer a theoretical positive machine, how about this promo,[/quote]How about this?  You walk into your bank and the smiling teller asks if you want your check cashed or do you want to take a spin on our wheel of fortune?  Same thing....  I get your analogy, but positive odds do not guarantee your results will ever be financially positive.  What positive odds do is let you play longer with the same money giving you more opportunities at a jackpot.  If you hit a jackpot, it's mostly luck.   Of course the bank could go out of business and you may have the same result.  

[alpax]

Sounds more like a marketing ploy than a limited time promotion.

Phil understands at least that positive expectation games require time to master the correct holds in the game, grinding the game for several hours, as well as a sufficient bankroll to average a few dollars. At least on a CD account, you can do other things while your account gains meager interest.

I do not know the regulations and laws of foriegn countries, but are the citizens not allowed to have any cash currencies stashed privately than outside their bank? Does all their funds have to be accounted for inside a bank account that depreciates for whatever reason faster than a gambler playing a negative expectation machine? I'd seek residence in another country. I heard Sweeden has ridiculous amount of taxes, thats about it. I never been to any of those countries.

If you must put money through a video poker machine, I'd put the money in and cash out TITO white tickets and hold on to them. Then refresh them by putting them in and cashing them out before the expiration date.

A good amount of New Yorkers today don't use a bank (even with FDIC) from what happened in the depression long story short. The risk they take is if there is a fire that engulfs the residence, their entire fortune is gone.

Realistically Vegas casinos overly do not promote their 100% games, Mr. Dancer mentions people are watched on the bank and get thrown out if they play too much.

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=alpax]Phil understands at least that positive expectation games require time
to master the correct holds in the game, grinding the game for several
hours, as well as a sufficient bankroll to average a few dollars.[/quote]The majority of forum members know playing games with better odds increases your chance of having better results.  The converse is true of poor games.  What I personally have a problem with is the inferred promise that playing positive games is guaranteed to make them profitable.  The math says with an unlimited bankroll (?), unlimited time (?) and unlimited perfect play (?), a positive game will be positive.  Does anyone on this earth have all of these factors in unlimited quantities?I have no problem with taking full advantage of math based strategies when I play.  In fact, I count on it.  I also realize that what happens when I play is only a tiny slice of the entire infinite spectrum of play and I know anything could and will happen.  That is the main reason I choose to limit my play to money earmarked for recreation.  if I lose, I had fun.  If I win so much the better.   Video poker is not a bank, it's gambling. 

[notes1]

I was speaking to the current interest rate situation both here and abroad.

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=notes1]I was speaking to the current interest rate situation both here and abroad.[/quote]No problem.   You addressed me personally, so I responded.   I have the suspicion that many of my comments on this forum have been misinterpreted as being negative toward traditional strategies.  This is far from the truth.  If someone wants to wager huge amounts of money on the hope that a RNG will stop at the right place that's there business, it's just not my strategy.

[notes1]

I was not speaking to you personally, but am now.

again, this was more of a comment on the low interest rate situation, not about the likelihood of beating the machines. in all my posts, and I have made too many, I have never endorsed the idea that the machines can be beat, on a widespread basis. to the contrary, I have been criticized many times on this forum for not believing those who sell the idea, they can be beat.

[FloridaPhil]

Got it.   Everyone's got to have a dream.  That's the beauty of America.  You are free to pursue your dreams no matter how implausible they may be. 

[billryan]

Sounds more like a marketing ploy than a limited time promotion.

Phil understands at least that positive expectation games require time to master the correct holds in the game, grinding the game for several hours, as well as a sufficient bankroll to average a few dollars. At least on a CD account, you can do other things while your account gains meager interest.

I do not know the regulations and laws of foriegn countries, but are the citizens not allowed to have any cash currencies stashed privately than outside their bank? Does all their funds have to be accounted for inside a bank account that depreciates for whatever reason faster than a gambler playing a negative expectation machine? I'd seek residence in another country. I heard Sweeden has ridiculous amount of taxes, thats about it. I never been to any of those countries.

If you must put money through a video poker machine, I'd put the money in and cash out TITO white tickets and hold on to them. Then refresh them by putting them in and cashing them out before the expiration date.

A good amount of New Yorkers today don't use a bank (even with FDIC) from what happened in the depression long story short. The risk they take is if there is a fire that engulfs the residence, their entire fortune is gone.

Realistically Vegas casinos overly do not promote their 100% games, Mr. Dancer mentions people are watched on the bank and get thrown out if they play too much.

Many of my friends use travelers checks. You can buy them for almost nothing and if they are lost in a fire, they can be replaced.

[FloridaPhil]

Using a credit card with no conversion fee is preferred.  Many merchants will try to use currency rates to overcharge you.  By the way, do they have VP in Europe? Never played there.  How are the odds?