How much do professional VP players make as of today?

[BobDancer]

Positive games are quarter or nickel machines, how do they live a life without getting a job by playing video poker then?

Your premise is incorrect.

When you include slot clubs, promotions, mailers, and casino mistakes, there are many opportunities for positive plays on high denomination machines. Many are available only to those who can find them and have the expertise, bankroll, and gamble to exploit them.

To answer FP's "how do they get the bankroll?" question, everybody had a different path. There is no one unique path that we all took.

[FloridaPhil]

To answer FP's "how do they get the bankroll?" question, everybody had a different path. There is no one unique path that we all took.

I think there is a misconception among some players that just anyone can make a nice living playing VP in Vegas. I did for a while. I can see how a Vegas local could play positive quarter games, take advantage of comps and make a few dollars. In a town where you can get your dog groomed for free just for playing VP, you may even pay your rent.

To make $100K a year or more playing VP, you need access to resources and time. Those resources need to be money and time you are willing to lose. The payoff could take days, months or even years. If I took $500K out of my investments and played next to BD, would I ever make money? I know I can't because I can't play error free. At 71, my eyes aren't as good as they once were and my body won't let me sit in a chair all day. I also don't have enough discipline. As soon as I got down $100K, I would be running to the door. Players like BD also know where the opportunities are, I don't. Who is going to give away inside information that is paying them big money? No one.

Personally, I think making a nice living playing VP is a phenomenal achievement. It's never going to happen for me, so I choose to enjoy VP as inexpensively as I can.

[Player422738]

Positive games are quarter or nickel machines, how do they live a life without getting a job by playing video poker then?

Your premise is incorrect.

When you include slot clubs, promotions, mailers, and casino mistakes, there are many opportunities for positive plays on high denomination machines. Many are available only to those who can find them and have the expertise, bankroll, and gamble to exploit them.

To answer FP's "how do they get the bankroll?" question, everybody had a different path. There is no one unique path that we all took.

So, will you be able to share the info with us when you see the opportunity so we all can get rich?

[Jstark]

Positive games are quarter or nickel machines, how do they live a life without getting a job by playing video poker then?

Your premise is incorrect.

When you include slot clubs, promotions, mailers, and casino mistakes, there are many opportunities for positive plays on high denomination machines. Many are available only to those who can find them and have the expertise, bankroll, and gamble to exploit them.

To answer FP's "how do they get the bankroll?" question, everybody had a different path. There is no one unique path that we all took.

So, will you be able to share the info with us when you see the opportunity so we all can get rich?

Why should he? The best thing Bob should do is "dummy up and play."

[Player422738]

Positive games are quarter or nickel machines, how do they live a life without getting a job by playing video poker then?

Your premise is incorrect.

When you include slot clubs, promotions, mailers, and casino mistakes, there are many opportunities for positive plays on high denomination machines. Many are available only to those who can find them and have the expertise, bankroll, and gamble to exploit them.

To answer FP's "how do they get the bankroll?" question, everybody had a different path. There is no one unique path that we all took.

So, will you be able to share the info with us when you see the opportunity so we all can get rich?

Why should he? The best thing Bob should do is "dummy up and play."

That sounds like a dirty business.

[Tedlark]

If you got a tip on a "sure thing hot horse" at the racetrack would you share this information for free with your friends, knowing that if they placed bets this would lower the odds and you yourself would lose money on your bet because the odds then got reduced?

The special plays that are talked about here by some members are available for all those who want to invest the time to find them.

[Player422738]

Positive games are quarter or nickel machines, how do they live a life without getting a job by playing video poker then?

Your premise is incorrect.

When you include slot clubs, promotions, mailers, and casino mistakes, there are many opportunities for positive plays on high denomination machines. Many are available only to those who can find them and have the expertise, bankroll, and gamble to exploit them.

To answer FP's "how do they get the bankroll?" question, everybody had a different path. There is no one unique path that we all took.

Slot club + promotions + mailers are at most 0.2%
do you also consider ticket machine paying you 1 addition $100 bill as casino mistakes?
For draw, if top price is $50000, there are 1000 people in, you ER is only $50

So, time to stop misleading and creating losers?

[Gronbog]

Slot club + promotions + mailers are at most 0.2%

Such a blanket statement and definitely not true everywhere. My local slot club is worth 0.5% alone and there are points-multiplier days which increase this. Promotions and mailers are gravy on top of this.

[FloridaPhil]

Such a blanket statement and definitely not true everywhere. My local slot club is worth 0.5% alone and there are points-multiplier days which increase this. Promotions and mailers are gravy on top of this.

This is why there is so much disparity of opinion on the potential for VP profit. If all the games and all the comps in the world were equal, the skill of the player would determine the results. That is not the case. A skillful player in Vegas is going to have better results than the same player in West Wendover NV. It may not be intelligence, discipline or any other human factor that makes the difference. Opportunity to gain an edge has to exist in order to act on it. If the only positive VP games in the world were in Siberia, would any professional players move there? Would all the VP players left in Vegas quit the game?

[olds442jetaway]

I have kept track of things for many many years. I really believe I could make as much playing vp on dollar and quarter games at Mohegan Sun roughly in the same amount as working as a part time greeter at Walmart. Nearly every trip I get ahead 50 bucks or so, but don't have the desire or discipline to stop playing. Even if I broke even, the value of the free gas I put in the car and a meal or two would be in the fifty buck range. I don't even count things like free rooms, gifts, shows, etc. Also, I have been very lucky in that my old faithful Saturn with 377k miles on it has never stranded me up there. About 300k of those miles are casino miles. Now I know why GM quit making them. The car still looks nearly new and the plastic panels are of course dent and shopping cart free of mangles. Now, if I drove up there in a new car, other than the enjoyment of driving, playing vp would be a definite loser for me even if I did quit playing when 50 bucks ahead. In 5 years, I would have 100k miles on the car, untold repairs, and if it was a nice car like a new Challenger or Mustang GT, you could add in 20k or so in depreciation as well that would never be recovered.