"IF YOU BELIEVE IT'S RIGGED, WHY PLAY?"

[pokerforme]

Can't read the OP long post due to sheer volume but I have to admit this so far this has the makings of a great thread.   So many great things already have been said, let's not hold back guys and gals!

[edog743]

To your original question DA The reason why I am still on this site knowing full well that this site is rigged is because if I quit Webman wins. I will be here til my days on earth are up before I will allow Webman the satisfaction of knowing he beat me down to the point I quit.

[pokerforme]

When he put "impossible to please" as a tag line he forgot the word "ever".

[Tedlark]

b74 I was being facetious when I wrote :yes, it is so worth it...

It, in fact, would NOT be so worth it and exactly for the reasons I stated.

[onemoretry]

t. At the same time very possible. Is that really the case? Do machines have a "cheat switch" or something similar?

[b74]

[QUOTE=b74] t. At the same time very possible. Is that really the case? Do machines have a "cheat switch" or something similar?[/QUOTE] are you familiar at all with some of the previous software glitches and back doors that have been manipulated already?

[DaBurglar]

[QUOTE=b74] t. At the same time very possible. Is that really the case? Do machines have a "cheat switch" or something similar?[/QUOTE]Of course not, there is no "Cheat switch", not in the sense a slot SUPER or employee on the floor in broad daylight can just open a machine, jiggle a few things and VOILA, quads-a-poppin....But what has potentially been transpiring in AC as long as I have been going there is (again, just my opinion based on what I have seen via results and my analysis of them...I have no smoking gun), at certain points during the fiscal Quarter(s) of each Fiscal Year, the casino(s) WHICH ARE NOT/WERE NOT ON SERVERS have their machines "tightened" to simply ensure more duds (non-paying hands) on average get dealt to the players on that machine....this goes on for a few days then they switch it back to normal....so long as the Casino's REQUIRED payout percentage is met, they can manipulate take/cash flow to suit their needs......the machine is tightened NOT by messing with the chip which is inviolate, but via the user menus that control the actual games which take the results generated by the inviolate inaccessible "chip" and convert them into the actual PLAY results the player sees.....think of it as when you purchase a computer game and are setting it up to be played;  there are MANY options and settings that the player controls to make the game what he/she/it desires, but the player never actually goes into the programming, or "GUTS" of the game to do anything.On SERVER Based Casino game Systems, it is even easier......servers allow the user (i.e. the casino & its employees) to manipulate and manage virtually all aspects and manner of game play.   So, a casino employee on ANY level, who is privy to, or just somehow gets wind of these things and when they might take place, COULD share that info to outsiders who would then have an advantage.AGAIN, I am only speculating on HOW this might work in a place like AC.   I believe this scenario I just outlines could NEVER happen in Vegas simply because the oversight in VEGAS is just too solid/good.So please, if you are going to respond and take issue with THIS post I just made, it is JUST a hypothetical scenario in line with the discussion we are having....I am not saying this definitely happens.  I'm sick of people just co-opting a contrary position and distorting what my views and beliefs truly are, and then the more those distorted beliefs get repeated by OTHERS who don't give a fig for the truth, the more those distorted views become SET.

[onemoretry]

But what has potentially been transpiring in AC as long as I have been going there is (again, just my opinion based on what I have seen via results and my analysis of them...I have no smoking gun In other words, this is pure speculation, without any of evidence, other than your reported poor results, to support it.

[Casino Knight]

In other words, this is pure speculation, without any of evidence, other than your reported poor results, to support it.

Sorta like Christopher Steele and the Russian Dossier.

[DaBurglar]

[QUOTE=DaBurglar]
But what has potentially been transpiring in AC as long as I have been going there is (again, just my opinion based on what I have seen via results and my analysis of them...I have no smoking gun In other words, this is pure speculation, without any of evidence, other than your reported poor results, to support it.[/QUOTE]In other other other words, you don't like my "opinion", you don't like me expressing my "opinion", you don't like the fact I express my opinion with conviction and well written posts, and you don't like the fact I freely acknowledge what should be obvious anyway, that I am expressing my own personal experiences and interpretations thereof......Isn't that what forums like this are supposed to be?   What's more, I WISH (and hope) I am 100% WRONG about my Opinions/interpretations and that AC's video poker offerings in casinos like Caesar and Ballys and Harrahs are exactly what they are supposed to be operationally and statistically.....After seeing what Floridaphil has experienced in being shunted to specific sections of the forum for expressing his own unique approach and interpretation, I'd say I woul dbe in the same boat except for the fact that posters (lime OMT in this case, but others as well in the past) are not being financially harmed (allegedly) by my personal posts.Do you acknowledge that at least I am on record as stating that what I know and experienced vis-a-vis Nevada (Vegas/Reno) Casinos and their video poker is exactly what I can and should expect for legit, fair games?    Nothing untoward or wrong at all with my results there since 1992 when I first started playing, although admittedly I have not played much in Vegas in the last 2-3 years.....My issues are solely with Atlantic City, and it is NOT limited to only my personal, generally poor, statistically abnormal results!   it encompasses other areas and factors that I've mentioned many times previously.....