Resorts AC weekly Slot cash game

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Re: Resorts AC weekly Slot cash game

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DaBurglar you don't understand what you highlighted in my post has to do with your posts here? I never said that Resorts would investigate themselves but if the Gaming Commission WERE to come calling as a result of your inquiry; RESORTS would be able to prove to the Gaming Commission that their distribution of these winnings is on the up and up.

My guess is that whatever "lady" you spoke to at the Gaming Commission laughed herself silly just after you exited her airspace and she chalked you up as just another disgruntled loser.

So when you purchase a scratch off ticket in a state run lottery and you don't win the top prize, do you do the same thing?

As I have said before, and notes recently mentioned as well: when someone takes an opposing viewpoint from yours or they don't immediately say how great you are, you get nasty mean and blockheaded.


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Post by FAA »

The meticulous $1200 threshold win reporting is a given for casinos. Are you saying they'll just be able to surgically pluck the promo's big winners out of that haystack and serve them on a platter for the GC? That would be neat indeed.

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Yes FAA that's exactly what I'm saying. Not only can they tell what players cashed in on the promo but they know for how much as well. If a player reaches into a drum and pulls out a ticket with a dollar amount on it, that information is recorded onto a ledger by a casino employee.

If there is a drawing such as the example given by DaBurglar and if the top prize is $5,000.00 then that prize must be available. If there is only 1 prize of that value and if it was pulled from the drum then that's that and no more $5,000.00 prizes.

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Post by FAA »

No problem then. Easy breezy. Great minds think alike!

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You failed again to understand what I am complaining about, and the only people I ever disagree with are you and notes, so enough said on that....My complaint is that the gaming promo states that everyone is guaranteed to win a minimum amount of slot cash (say $10), but you "Could win UP TO  $5000".....okay so far?Well, for almost 5 years, neither myself nor many other players I have spoken to (at least 15 so far) have EVER won anything other than the minimum, not have any of us even HEARD of anyone else getting more than the minimum.......SoooooI went to the players booth (as did several other people I speak with regualrly) and flat out asked about this promo and how it works, the odds and all that.......and as I said already, ALL three times from all three different workers, it was stated plainly that no one EVER wins more than the minimum and that there is no 5000 prize out there to be won!THAT IS WHAT PROMPTED ME TO ASK THAT IT BE INVESTIGATED.....Sure, if.....IF somehwere, somehow, SOMEONE actually did win an amount equal or near 5000, there has to be a record of it, and I am sure that is what the gaming agent (who was very nice, very professional and is NOT laughing at me) will look into after she does some digging elsewhere.   And if it turns out that someone did indeed win ANY amount greater than the minimum, she will tell me, complaint is closed, end of story....nothing ventured, nothing lost or gained, except a few minutes of my time.    IT WAS THE REPORT I RECEIVED FROM THESE EMPLOYEES that prompted the complaint, as I am sure anyone else receiving similar info on a similar situation would find questionable and worthy of looking into......maybe all three people were just disgruntled employees (I doubt that but who knows, it is AC afterall), and were just whistling dixie out of their arses....or maybe they were telling the truth which will get one of their bosses in hot water (wouldn't surprise me a bit.)ALl you did Ted, was spitefully try and crash yet another thread or post of mine, so if you want further reasoning on what you perceive as my "hostility" start with that.   In whatever HEART it is you have, you KNOW exactly what I am talking about, and so do all the reasonable, normal level headed people here who frequent this forum.   Not that I care about that to the extent that you do, but when I am wrong or do not have a "righteous" argument, i do not persist, unlike you.Stop embarrassing yourself, it's pathetic.



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AS I intimated in my initial post, when i spoke to the gaming agent I asked her about how things "used to work", back when they had in house agents 24/7 in ALL AC casinos.    Situations like what I am encountering here would be dealt with IMMEDIATELY, and not require several weeks just for things to get into motion like my complaint has.....That alone supports what I have been saying since day one, that the situation and ENVIRNOMENT now exists for AC casinos to "pull some sh*t" that previously did not exist.   The removal of gaming agents from onsite, which obviously the state felt was a NEEDED feature for almost 32 years from 1979 to 2011. has indeed ushered in a spirit or state of nonchalance amongst AC casinos with regards complying with rules and regs.The situation with the total lack of safety is also relevant to there not being state gaming agents on site.....the behavior of casin0 security at Harrahs and elsewhere speaks to this point...no way would customers be experiencing the crap that has happened lately if there were still gaming agents on site to immediately witness and deal with things......in fact I have spoken to older customers who have been to AC for years before I ever went, and they all agree, it used to be a lot better and casino security used to be a lot more professional and vibrant, not the slouches they now employ.Finally, I have met and spoken with several former employees of the gaming commish who were laid of or forced to retire when Gov Christie shut them down and folded it into the state police in 2011.....all three said the situation is now ripe for stuff to happen that never could have happened before.   Makes sense to me, and is another reason why I primarily just stick to live poker now against other people/patrons.


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Post by Tedlark »

DaBurglar you really are an idiot. I COMPLETELY understood what you were attempting to say and my response was simple:IF THEY STATE THERE IS AN AVAILABLE PRIZE OF $5,000.00 THEN THERE HAS TO BE AT LEAST 1 $5,000.00 PRIZE.

What, are you mad that you haven't ever gotten the $5,000.00 prize? I got a news flash for you ace: not everyone wins the top prize on a lottery scratch off ticket either.

Get over yourself. I am not stupid.

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Post by FAA »

I think you both make good points within the thread. Unless the employees are swearing under oath, I would be inclined to believe their opinions are speculation. Nevertheless, GC digging is always welcome and should be pursued to truly arrive at the truth of the matter. You figure Resorts would have wanted to publicize a $5,000 winner in social media or print ads to begin with.

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You're pretty accurate FAA about my posts here but DaBurglar has some conspiracy theory going on because he talked with 3 casino workers about this. Did he talk to them all? No. Did he talk to Resorts marketing people? No.

There are simple ways to determine if the $5,000.00 prize has been won; how many $5,000.00 prizes are available; and, how many OTHER prizes are available.

He just REFUSES to look at things from another person's logical perspective, especially MINE, and the answers he seeks are painfully simple to get.

Again, to me, this is sour grapes on his part.


Edited to add: I just re-read DaBurglar's post where he said he polled "many" other casino patrons about the amount they won in this promotion. DaBurglar stated that 15 was "many" and my thinking is that 15 is not "many" considering that Resorts had thousands of game tickets made up for this promotion. Say they had 10,000 tickets printed and of these 10,000 the prize schedule went: 1- $5,000.00 winner; 3 -$1,000.00 winners; 50 - $500.00 winners; 100 - $50.00 winners; 500 -$25.00 winners; and, 9,346 - $10.00 winners. Maybe this will help DaBurglar understand that taking a sample of 15 people is not enough to determine the validity and honesty of this promotion. And I thought he was in marketing; how stupid do I feel?

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DaBurglar you really are an idiot. I COMPLETELY understood what you were attempting to say and my response was simple:IF THEY STATE THERE IS AN AVAILABLE PRIZE OF $5,000.00 THEN THERE HAS TO BE AT LEAST 1 $5,000.00 PRIZE.

What, are you mad that you haven't ever gotten the $5,000.00 prize? I got a news flash for you ace: not everyone wins the top prize on a lottery scratch off ticket either.

Get over yourself. I am not stupid. Just explain the boldfaced portion I highlighted......since you never frequent AC, have never spoken TO ANY RESORT EMPLOYEES OR PATRONS, explain to the forum exactly how you know....how you KNOW .....that simply because resorts states in their flier (which goes out to ALL players) that each player "Could" win up to 5000 that this HAS to be true??   Where is YOUR evidence on this Ted?  DO not dodge this as is your normal tactic when I pin you into a corner via your own words and posts.....I am going to state this one last time, because your continued attempts to confuse and confound just so you can present an IMAGE of getting in the last word is getting to be beyond pathetic:On three occasions, with THREE different employees each time, who were manning the desk which is SUPPOSED to give players clear, ACCCURATE info about casino policy and games (i.e. THEY REPRESENT the casino itself), they stated quite clearly and plainly that "No one ever wins 5000, or ANY other amount of any significance...."    That in and of itself is WRONG and indicates a problem SOMEWHERE with something.   Casino employees flat out contradicting what is published in promotional fliers and official casino correspondence IS IN FACT a big deal.The vehemence with which you attack my every post, which you DO NOT do to anyone else here, is telling TED.    AS I said, you just hate and cannot stand me for no other reason that your own putrid inner self only understands....and what must kill you is there are MANY people here who agree with me on this, but they just do not want to become a target of your IDIOTIC stupid childish rants and campaigns (which I totally understand.)You will never get what you want out of me....NEVER    I am never going away, not gonna stop posting about what I want, when I want and how I want.....but if ALL YOU continue to do is just attack stalk and harrass me, well then what does that say about you?   Because that is all you do on this forum....obsess over little ol' me.  

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