The Path II

The lighter side... playing for entertainment, less concerned about "the math."
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dinghy
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Re: The Path II

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FAA wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 8:40 am
Bet one all or most of the day would not even be worth the trip expense.
Agreed, but max-bet may be worse. Financially the best option may be stay home and play for free online.

I don't know the AC landscape, but Borgata looks like it should be a decent fit for you with its widely available quarter full-pay JOB.

Caesars properties have some obvious drawbacks. They require anything from $20 to 50 per point on the good vp, versus only $5 for slots. This ensures club benefits will go mostly to slot players. And they don't typically value regulars. They seem to prefer occasional visitors with big daily averages.

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FAA, Congratulations on the Royal. They can happen at any time. Last year I had 2 which was about the average for the number of hands I played. Mine came on 2 consecutive days. Hope you get another royal next time you hit the casinos.

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Thank you, I think. I feel like I have lost $3,250 much of the time since the blessed event. More of a mixed blessing. It feels great to have vindication at a casino that relieved me of this amount in December. From car wreck to depositing their check. It felt crazy to even continue to patronize Harrah's. But even a quarter RF pays more; difficult to shrug this blown opportunity off. I will be back. New thread proved lucky, but same cautious machine betting. And if I can hang in on a machine for a half hour, I should probably double my bet for five minutes.

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FAA wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:10 pm
I feel like I have lost $3,250 much of the time since the blessed event. More of a mixed blessing.
That's not a fair comparison imo. Betting max dollars consistently, your accumulated losses would have been much bigger leading up to the royal.

And I'm not sure you actually play dollars very regularly. If your normal game is max-quarters, then the royal was likely to be in the $750-1000 range anyway.

You also avoided a tax annoyance, depending on your tax situation.

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FAA has regularly posted here in these forums of his desire to hit a $4,000.00 jackpot. He will not do it playing less than max coin in unless he plays a gimmick game that has a multiplier and those games require more coin in so it is doubtful that he would play those. If he had a sufficient bankroll he would not need to short play.

His going to casinos every weekend with a smaller bankroll lessens his chances of hitting a $4,000.00 jackpot. It has been suggested to him that he save up for a few weeks and go to the casino(s) with a stronger bankroll. Even doing this he should give serious thought to sticking to .25 denom or even .50 denom if he has a strong enough bankroll.

I am an advocate of playing max coin in at a denomination that would allow this. Ultimately I don't give a flying f*%$ how FAA plays but with the way he plays, he only lessens his chances of hitting the big one.

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Tedlark wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:11 pm
FAA has regularly posted here in these forums of his desire to hit a $4,000.00 jackpot.
Thanks for the background info.

Everyone has different motivations, but I'm not comfortable when the stakes are too high.

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dinghy wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:53 pm

Betting max dollars consistently, your accumulated losses would have been much bigger leading up to the royal.
Perhaps. He's actually been more fortunate than he realizes. Maybe there'll be a stretch with several underfunded royals, but more likely, there'll be a stretch with fewer quads coming in "on schedule" bailing him out and more disasters like December. The problem is the bankroll and discipline. I doubt if the bankroll supports even 0.25 play as much as he plays, yet he bets $1 and $2 max at times. He may as well go to nickel and dime play and wait until he gets a jackpot or two to up his denomination. As far as the discipline goes, he won't adhere to his own advice, let alone that from others so good luck on the reclamation project.

No bankroll + no discipline = Path II obliteration

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TripleTriple wrote:
Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:36 am
No bankroll + no discipline = Path II obliteration
Also,

No edge

Gambling games are mathematical. Respect the math, or perish.

A lot of otherwise intelligent gamblers dismiss the math because it's inconvenient.

That was my point when he I suggested he needs to be opportunistic. For example it's not far wrong to say "always max bet," but I would prefer to analyze each situation individually.

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I think that being opportunistic is helpful advice. If the Caesars JOB quarter progressive is $1,100 or so, I can skip the Harrah's side trip and enjoy the quarter play without much bankroll consequence. So I will be more inclined to anchor myself there. Still not 100%, but acceptable. I just want a hand pay for the bucket list. I was thrilled to replenish my account with the RF, paltry as it was. Harrah's always saps my initial max bets before conferring a premium hand. After all the travel, there should be a max dollar segment to goose a pay off. Mine always whiff and I must pare down to three bucks. No rigging, but that's been the trend. I would have been much better off postponing max bet for forty minutes the way they've been playing. If Harrah's had fifty cent full pay carousels, that would be ideal. Being stuck at Caesars or Bally's should be my fate, but they are incredibly dull.

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Betting max dollars consistently, your accumulated losses would have been much bigger leading up to the royal.
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I have omitted what should be obvious to my detractors. This is exactly why I forego so much max bet. The RF is such a long shot. Do I want to waste $5,000 to potentially infinity over many brutal sessions chasing it? No thank you. Thanks for my "refund." I will continue to bob and weave my way through sessions, hoping to avoid underfunded premium hands. Fairly lucky so far, as TT concedes.

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