Is this unusual ?

[olds442jetaway]

This isn't really vp related but it easily could be. I have a friend that plays 100 dollar slots at Mohegan Sun . On a bad day, he will play 25 dollar slots. A couple of weeks ago, he was playing and started hitting the spin feature a lot on the hundred dollar Wheel of Fortune Machine. In a couple of hours or a little more he had 27 hand pays supposedly a record. Anyway, an hour or so into his play he said that 6 suits stood in a row less than an arm's length behind him. Three were supposedly from the state, but I don't know all of the detail. After an hour of this he got tired and uncomfortable of this and cashed in not giving the casino back any of his winnings. Even he said had they not been there, he would probably given half or so back. I imagine the same thing could happen to a vp player. Has anyone heard of similar stories. I mean cmon 6 suits and who knows how many undercover ones in the area. Like my friend says where are they when he is losing 5k an hour?

[FloridaPhil]

I've seen a few players who were escorted to their car after a big win, but never as you described.   I image if someone hit 27 hand pay royals in a row it would stir up something in the casino office.   If it was me, they would be calling the EMTs.

[DaBurglar]

Whoa whoa whoa!    27 hand pays in 2+ hours?!!?!?!?!     That comes out to roughly (120/27) --->>>  one hand pay every 4-1/2 to 5 minutes!!!!  How on earth did the staff process them all that fast???   That boggles the mind.....Olds, I have never received a hand pay in Mohegan, so my first question is do they adhere to the standard 1200 dollar threshold for handpays, or is it something lower (like 600 or 800 as in some other jursisdictions???)Because, honestly, if someone has hit THAT many handpays of 1200 or more in such a short time, and on the SAME machine no less, something realllly seems out of sorts, big time!What was his BIGGEST hand pay during that time?   perhaps......PERHAPS, if the guy "only" had a bunch of hand pays that all fell into the 1200-1500 threshold, such that over the two hours, his  TOTAL dollars won (in hand pays) was roughly  27 x $1200 = 32,400 .....(and then add in a few thousand to reflect that some handpays were slightly more than 1200)  for a grand total of approximately $38-40k, then that TOTAL figure really is not that much (unusually much) for a dollar slot payout during a 2 hour period.But still, you'd think that Lonnnnng before the total reached 27 handpays, managment would have stepped in to at least investigate the actual machine to check for malfunction.....I'm thinking, after the 7th or 8th hand pay to the same player on the same machine in less than an hour's time would have triggered something far more than a handful of suits standing around gawking.Still, very interesting story Olds, thanks for sharing, and any other details you learn or can share is greatly appreciated.

[Come Back Kid]

On a $100 slot machine, you probably only need "any bars" to hit a jack-pot. LOL
It's possible they were there to intimidate him, as there may have been something wrong with the machine, and they cannot shut it down or check until the player is finished. Just a thought...

[FAA]

Big brother to the sixth power! Obviously an unnerving feeling. Talk about the bum's rush. He must have been happy to get the hell out. That's a lot of paper, green and otherwise, to take home.

[olds442jetaway]

I am going up tonight and will take a look at the machine myself. Like posted, I suspect a small hit on a 100 machine triggers a 1200 or more hand pay. I also know from experience after the first hand pay for the evening, they are very fast. Less than 5 minutes sometimes. You are logged into the computer. The attendant gets cash from a station a few feet away and you are playing again. Very efficient.

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=DaBuglar]How on earth did the staff process them all that fast???[/quote]I once watched a lady and a man play $10 a coin deuces wild.   It was back when they were first installing the Vegas slots in the Florida Hard Rocks and I was waiting for a machine to open up so I could play.  Each time they hit a wild royal or bigger, the girl came over with the paper work.   It was actually pretty fast as the slot host had a form on a clipboard and all they had to do was initial the form each time they got paid.  I assumed they already had collected their tax info.

[alpax]

I do recall in the past seeing a story where there was one suited person behind you watching you play last year when you were on a tear on video poker. A person would be there for a long period of time even a switch off when one person's duty was done. Because of this, I would not think what happened is completely unusual.

But with six people standing that close, I must say is overkill. Virtually almost every wheel spin on the Wheel of Fortunate at that high of denomination would necessitate a tax reported jackpot. If I were in the same position as your friend was with that many people in suits behind me, I would feel very uneasy and uncomfortable about this. To them it must be a Red Alert situation.

On a $100 slot machine, you probably only need "any bars" to hit a jack-pot. LOL
It's possible they were there to intimidate him, as there may have been something wrong with the machine, and they cannot shut it down or check until the player is finished. Just a thought...

The casino is considered private property although it has many government regulations. They have the right to stop a player from playing any game all the way to having the right to identify them as a trespasser.

I do recall a few years ago, a person won four $10,000+ jackpots playing $5 reel slots in a span of 2 hours. The casino shut down the machine and performed integrity tests, the player was not allowed to play.

If you ever play at a casino at 4AM in the morning, that is around the time the security collects money on every machine. They will tell you to cash out and return in 5-10 minutes, no questions asked.

[billryan]

I've always wondered what would happen if a player refused to leave his machine when they collect the money. I've often been asked to move and never gave it a thought.
I've told this story before and been assured it was nothing more than a coincidence but I was the only one playing in a bar when a slot tech showed up to change some chips behind the bar. Told me I had to cash out, and had the bartender give me a beer for my trouble. I had to move to a part of the bar that had no machines .After working behind the bar for about fifteen minutes, he came to the machine I'd been playing. and opened it. It was the only machine he opened, and he said he had given me some credits. Looked and there were five credits on machine. It dealt me a full house. Total co-inky-dink.

[Chicagoan]

LOL. On both $25 and $100 vp denoms, there are plenty of taxable jackpots. After the first couple of hits the casino sets up a "board" so all the player has to do is sign on the dotted line. That keeps things moving quickly.

As far as standing behind someone to wait for him to stop playing so they can check out the machine, lol!!! I promise you, if they have the slightest suspicion the casino checks it out before they pay you a dime.

I have had numerous high denom jackpots and in some casinos it is a requirement that a supervisor call the eye in the sky to review the actual deal-draw before the jackpot is paid. I know there have been times where everything I did was perfectly innocent and yet I was still sweating it while the supervisor stood huddled over in the corner whispering into his cell to the eye in the sky. I have had people say a techie comes and looks the machine over, but in my experience in NUMEROUS casinos, a very high denom jackpot is verified by the eye in the sky replaying the actual deal-draw.

As Alpax wrote, it is private property....if you don't like their rules, you are free to play elsewhere.

I am sure Olds is telling us what he was told. but I know of ZERO casinos anywhere that would still be paying out jackpots if 27 were won on the same machine in a 2 hour time frame. Players can be lucky, but no machine can be that lucky. I suspect that the story got re-told a few times and each time it was told the time frame decreased and the number of jackpots increased. Let me tell you about the big fish that got away......