Strategy on the 3 mo. players club average

[wildman49]

What is the best way to find where the cut off is for free play on the 3 month points averagethat the players club uses. The club will not give me any answers, my host is MIA most the time but don't think he will be much help but will try him soon.Right now I guess its a trial and error to find the levels. This past month I did 30k more to boost my 3 month average by 10k. Just trying to max my play to a level without over playing. Is this the best way to work the points by going up 10k at a time or is there a better way?The main reason I ask is back a few  months I did a big month added 45k to average and only went up $300 in free play for the new month. I was getting $1500 for 80k average so adding only $300 for 45k seems off a bit to me.

[BobDancer]

it's hard to address your question without knowing more. Like:  What games are you playing and what does the slot club pay? Playing $45K at a game where these two factors add up to 99% means it cost you on average $450. The returns you are getting make this a good investment. Playing this much on games that add up to 96% isn't such a good deal.Every casino has a top limit as to how much they will pay. It could be that you reached that top limit with less than $45K in play. You need to check with other players to find out what the casino is paying. Don't bother asking nickel and quarter players --- because they can't get to $45K coin-in. I don't know you and don't know how hard it is for you to converse with others about such things. For some folks it's easier than it is for others. But you need this information to make an educated judgement. If the house won't give it to you, maybe other players will. You don't need to ask "your host" in particular. one of the hosts likely is talkative and useful. Keep talking to different hosts until you find the right one. Remember, hosts are "professional friends." That's what they do. They LOVE to talk. Maybe they know something and maybe they don't.Finally, some games create more "theoretical' than others. It takes a lot of trial and error (and good records and knowledgeable players who will talk to you) to learn the best game to play at every house. Experimentation is your last resort. It works, but you only have a few data points and it takes a long time to come to any conclusion --- and the casino may change their formula at any time. Sometimes such things as a big win or a big loss can really affect things.

[wildman49]

Finally, some games create more "theoretical' than others. It takes a lot of trial and error (and good records and knowledgeable players who will talk to you) to learn the best game to play at every house. Experimentation is your last resort. It works, but you only have a few data points and it takes a long time to come to any conclusion --- and the casino may change their formula at any time. Sometimes such things as a big win or a big loss can really affect things.

How this came about is the first 4 months of this year I did 80k per month playing games 99.5% and above just going for top tier (diamond). Then out of the blue a players club change. They have a smaller casino over an hour drive from the main casino. Since the smaller casino was built they had separate players club so you had to earn free play by playing at each. But few months back they made one players club and one card for both. When they did this my free play doubled.  I have to go to both as its split $900 at each per month.I did not know there might be a cap on the free play, I thought the more I put thru the more free play is earned. My current 3 month average is 125k .As far as talking to others, there are very very few regular players I see there. It's worth a try  asking the 2 or 3 I see more often. I did not know working the system would be this hard.

[pokerpokerpoker]

Good luck finding out. As Bob mentioned, a few months of poor luck can really bump up your FP mailers. The opposite is also true. Where I play, I've never been able to get a straight answer from anyone I have talked to - players and employees.

Almost anyone can play accurately on the best paytables, but knowing how much coin-in at which machine over X time period is arguably just as important.

I used to play a lot of 99.8% TB+, the best game in the house, and my FP was essentially zero, win or lose. Since switching to lesser (but still good) games; my FP and comps have increased greatly. Does my FP increase offset the higher house edge on the games I've been playing? I'm not sure yet.

[Vman96]

I thought the more I put thru the more free play is earned.

Less casino incentive to give large volume players the exact same comp percentage as lower players. The larger volume players are generally more addicted.

[alpax]

Outstanding insight from Mr. Dancer and PPP. These type of discussions were definitely absent for a long period of time. It is a vital skill to master on top of learning the optimal strategy to the game so I am glad wildman49 brought it up.

[Waiting4RF]

Caesar's has return rewards when earning over 75 Tier Credits (played $750 VP) you get $5. If you earn 150TC, you still get $5. If you earn 1000TC, you get a total of $40. It is not linear. Does anyone know the different TC required to get $10 $15 $20 etc? It seems that the first 75TC are the most valuable.

[alpax]

Caesar's has return rewards when earning over 75 Tier Credits (played $750 VP) you get $5. If you earn 150TC, you still get $5. If you earn 1000TC, you get a total of $40. It is not linear. Does anyone know the different TC required to get $10 $15 $20 etc? It seems that the first 75TC are the most valuable.

Post the link where you got the details from.

Hard to imagine Caesars Palace Las Vegas will offer any sort of promotion, I'll assume this is somewhere else.

Although you are looking at the particular "return rewards", where $40 should be awarded at 600TC to be in line proportionally with $5 for the first 75TC. There is also a different incentive attached to the 1000TC, you also get 1000TC more if you do it all in a single day. People do see incentives/value towards reaching Diamond or 7star status on Total Rewwards.

[Waiting4RF]

It is not on a wed page. I have gotten return rewards at Harrahs Philly, Ballys AC, and Horseshoe Baltimore. In Baltimore a few years ago, it was $10 freeplay after earning 75 TC earned. Then it went down to $5. They send you an email about 5 days later saying you earned return rewards for playing on a specific date. The more you play the more you earn. Formula is not provided. Bonus tier credits are on their web page. Example Bonus 125 TC if you earn 500TC in one day.