Dream Card Poker Insight for DDB and TDB Players

[Webman]

Also, the actual frequency of occurrence of the dream card (i.e 31% in the case of ddb) is itself a variable that can be set, reset and modified as the casino See's fit, right?

This post and the comment chain raise a question. How many casinos are adjusting Dream Card frequency, as well as the frequency of other multipliers in other games, and of course Magic Deal frequency? I have seen WILD swings in the freqnency of multipliers and Dream Cards at different casinos. Stack the Deck is unique because the bonus cards are awarded on actual dealt three of a kinds (and other dealt hands) so there is nothing a given casino can do to change the frequency, just the paytables. But as for the other games, I would be interested to know if a given casino is adjusting the frequency because of course that greatly affects the return percentage. Imagine attracting players by raising the Full House pay out to 50, but then sneaking in a 50% decrease in Dream Cards or multipliers.

I believe that is misinformation. As I understand it, casinos have no control over such settings. They would be fixed based on the selected pay table.

[onemoretry]

How many casinos are adjusting Dream Card frequency, as well as the frequency of other multipliers in other games, and of course Magic Deal frequency? My guess is that it is much, much more likely that these things are encoded within the game itself, and unavailable to the casino operator to manipulate. Therefore, the answer is zero.

[onemoretry]

I believe that is misinformation. As I understand it, casinos have no control over such settings. They would be fixed based on the selected pay table. What? From DB - misinformation? No kidding!

[Chicagoan]

OK, I stand corrected. Thanks!

[alpax]

   On some outings at Four Winds they've come in groups but I've never been dealt a royal or AWAK there at the .25 denomination level. I did manage to get dealt 4's with a kicker at that level though while playing 10 play TDB.

I remember billyjoe hitting several royals at $1.00 denomination when he was playing single line but given my style of play I find single line a bit, um, boring. No offense to those who play single line but once 3/5 play came out; I was hooked on multi-line. When 3/5 play first came out around 1996 the original Harrah's boat in Joliet, IL (the one that looked like a paddle wheel) had a bank of 6 and there was usually a line for them. Back then they had 2 hour cruises and players got booted off after 2 hours unless you were a known player and you could stay on the boat for multiple cruises without exiting the boat. I should say that this was not Dream Card but standard fare such as deuces wild, JOB, DDB, etc.

I stopped playing seriously a few months ago because I had reached level 2 diamond with Caesars and I wasn't going to try for Seven Stars. I'll start playing a bit after the first of the year. Harrah's has a promotion right now to start earning tier credits for 2018 but to me this promotion isn't sweet enough for me to partake of it.

Thanks again for the time you put into breaking down these games for all of us here and I'm sure I am not the only one here who appreciates it.

I've played a lot if 5Star Dream card in the past 2 years for dollars. Mostly DDB and some TDB, about a 70%/30% split.

I have always played VP for the thrill of a big hand, and DC fits the bill. I would estimate my jackpot frequency as one every 1-1.5 hours for TDB and every 2-3 hours for DDB, again for single hand play. But, the swings are huge in this game. It is nothing to lose $400 in 5 or 10 minutes playing TDB DC. For a solid hour of play, with the speed turned up, I would like to have $1200-$1500. Often, I would have more like $800-$1200 and either go bust or hit a handpay in 30-45 minutes. 250 credit quads, which are a frequent occurrence, just buy you a little time.


TDB, with it's decreased DC percentage and with trips only giving your 10 credits back, magnifies the swings even more. The worst I ever did was -$2000 in maybe 75 minutes.

My home casino, as well as the DC on this site, both give the DC with the highest EV. But, there are still DC machines out there that do give the wrong card. I played one this year in Vegas. For DDB, the glitch I've noted is pairing up say a 7, when the better play is to pair a 4 (for a possible premium quad).

But, my $1 DC play will likely be coming to an end - because of the new tax code. To my understanding, any W2Gs when added to your tax deductions up to $24k (combined) will be taxed. Once you hit the $24k in deductions and W2Gs, you can write off losses. In my case, my deductions are nowhere near $24k.

Alpax, check your inbox at the other board.

Much appreciated to both Ted and PPP for the continued support.

I was a week late, but I completed the additional effort that I promised to put in.

The TDB Analysis and the W2G odds for 1/3/5/10 play are there in the event people are concerned about the new Standard Deduction tax policies. TDB with Dreamcard will payout over 460%! Hence it will get less DreamCards than other games.

Bottom line what I learned from this is that Dreamcard makes it 10x easier to make a big hand.

[pokerpokerpoker]

10X seems right. Looking back I have had 10 W2Gs playing DC. Only one happened when the DC had not activated.

[alpax]

Forgot to mention with regards to the incorrect DreamCard. Players considering playing DreamCard should know the strategy charts cold. When the Dream Card appears, the player should quickly see what they have and determine what other cards will make their hold higher on the strategy charts.

DreamCards are essentially worth 4 folds is value make it count.

[DaBurglar]

[QUOTE=Webman]
I believe that is misinformation. As I understand it, casinos have no control over such settings. They would be fixed based on the selected pay table. What? From DB - misinformation? No kidding![/QUOTE]


While I was "away" on my self imposed exile, I saw this thread and in particular this cheap shot, but was unable to respond, so I'm doing it now....

I did not, nor have I ever willingly or knowingly spread "misinformation". Specifically in THIS thread regarding the setting of the dream card activation frequency, go back and look at my posts in this thread, look at my exact wording and structure....I never state anything as a fact or certainty. I was speculating, indeed I was asking for alpax to confirm my own personal suspicion and understanding that casinos can, if they so choose, adjust the frequency. I phrased all my statements thusly, in the form of a question asking aplax to either confirm or deny my own views, and never spread " disinformation"....

Onemoretry, what was your major in @college? You obviously minored in snottiness and misdirected cynical hostility.