A couple of good ones!

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Re: A couple of good ones!

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A few of the hits from last nights session. It looks good but the end result was negative they were too many long streaks of nothing in between.
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I am going to catch all kinds of flack from the math guys for this next picture from last night one of my hands. I have been talking to this guy for over a year who claims to be a head of them because somehow the machines are programmed to pay out royal flushes when you have less than five bet so they don’t have to pay the correct amount. I was really hesitant to try it but did last night And here it is

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Very strange the way the machine acted. This was a re-draw and when the cards came up on the redraw the machine automatically held everything. By the way the same guy hit three of them in the last 24 hours playing a dollar machine with either 1 2 or 3 bet. He was not B s ing Either he showed me the photos on his phone which had the dates of the pictures all of the hits were at Mohegan sun

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3 times royal flushes on the draw plus the one you hit in 24 hours doesn’t sound like a random event if it happens in certain pattern that can be confirmed.

Are you ok to play it for couple of more sessions to see if you can continue to do it? If yes, then it’s programmed and it happens way more frequent than what it is supposed to be.

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As I have posted in the past over the years, I have had 3 instances of over 600,000 hands playing the correct way and hit 0 Royals. That in itself was hard for me to believe as well as a disaster for my wallet. I am not a conspiracy theory buff and have seen incredible things happen relating to VP. That said, after a while, one has to wonder. In fact, the session before this one, I had a disaster and expensive one coming up on the end of a tier rating period. After 14 hours or so of play, I realized I had just a few bucks of free play to use. I decided to play 15 hands at a buck a hand on a dollar deuces wild game. I hit quad deuces on the 3 rd hand. To answer your question, the answer is yes. I will give it a shot. I may play more Joker kings than usual on a dollar game as the hit if it happens won’t be quite as bed. 400 vs 250.
I have not hit a Royal since early July and I play about 15,000 to 25,000 hands a week. I just went back to my records and photos and see my last Royal before this short coin one was July 16. That means roughly another 200,000 hands without a Royal. I might as well give it a shot short coining on a dollar machine and see what happens. These would still be considered short term results. At any rate we will see what happens. Right now my larger concerns are for the Trumps and the country as we deal with the breaking
news and the implications for our National security.

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You should report it to gaming control board. Auto lock on redraw is a malfunction.

The odds to get a royal on redrawing all 5 cards is a bit hard to calculate. But it should be at least 1 in 383K hands assuming no royal cards are discarded on 52-card deck. If any royal card is discarded, the odds will be even smaller. That being said, for every 383K hands that you have to discard everything, you will get a royal on the draw.

So hitting 4 of that hands in 24 hours (playing about 5k hands I assume) is basically impossible if cards are drawn randomly.

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Careful HH you are teetering on the edge of joining us scorned "CT's". :ouch: :D

Serious question though, is the difference in the odds for redraw royal than a dealt royal because of the discards? Seems so.

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tech58 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 11:06 am
Careful HH you are teetering on the edge of joining us scorned "CT's". :ouch: :D

Serious question though, is the difference in the odds for redraw royal than a dealt royal because of the discards? Seems so.
1 in 383K is actually the conditional probability when all 5 cards are discarded. The overall probability requires to calculate the odds of discarding all 5 cards containing royal cards and without royal cards. It can get complicated. Overall, the probability of getting royal on 5 card redraw is much smaller than getting a dealt royal.

The easy calculation is assuming you discard all 5 cards without royal cards. There are 1,533,939 ways of drawing 5 from 47 cards and then divided by 4.

In JoB when you discard a single 10, you can only draw 3 royals, so the odds is even smaller (1.5M / 3). In deuces wild u may discard suited A and High card, so it’s kind of hard to give the accurate probability. But you get the idea, the bottom line is 1 in 383K.

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Gaming control commission?
I am pretty sure Old's plays at Indian casino. LOL with that.

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tech58 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 11:49 am
Gaming control commission?
I am pretty sure Old's plays at Indian casino. LOL with that.
Oh. RIP $$$

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