That's 95.6% is on the one coin, the 1.2% extra long term loss being only on the one coin. If you're switching between a nickel or quarter and then a significantly higher amount, that's a fraction of a penny I don't really care about in all honesty.onemoretry wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:57 amReally? You're already playing a pretty crappy game (96.8%), and then you decide to play an even crappier one (95.6%), and you argue it won't ruin your long term results? Seems illogical to me.applepear86 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:13 am...And it actually doesn't ruin your results at all in the long run, it just stretches the odds out more.
And I don't play those crappy paytables, i usually manage to find 98% or higher (usually JOB or bonus), and if I don't I will probably play nickels on a super times pay bartop switched to one hand without the extra coin bonus activated lol (most casinos that have the worst paytables also tend to offer only quarters and higher on a lot of the game kings that's why I do that).
I brought up that particular 8/5 game because most of the people that preach to play 5 coin all the time, are the same people playing $5 a hand 8/5 paytables with no advantage angle whatsoever at a tight crappy casino chain. If I'm playing a negative game for leisure where I'm wracking up negative EV, you best believe I'm going to bet how I feel the cards are going, even if it's only for entertainment in the long run.
And royal chasing is the worst bet in the casino (if you're exclusively playing for that). Take the casino advantage % and apply to the number of average expected hands for a royal, and you will see how expensive the royal really is, the royal is there to scam you into long term chasing. On some of the bad paytables it's like playing a roulette wheel with FIFTY zeros from a royal chasing standpoint looking at that matrix. Even 9/6 JOB royal chasing, same as playing a roulette wheel with 7 zeros. (before people jump down my throat I'm talking about people who exclusively play to chase the royal). The royal can heavily impact the payback of course, but the people who sit there on these awful paytables and preach about exclusively being 5 coin are the ones I was moreso ranting at. I respect the Bob Dancers of the video poker world who play full 5 coin exclusively when they have an advantage. Otherwise, I say switching around the bet shouldn't be the cardinal sin it's made out to be.