Dealt A Straight Flush

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rascal
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Re: Dealt A Straight Flush

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There is more than one way to skin a cat. Why does everything have to be absolutely right or absolutely wrong? Coaching Little League baseball, I can clearly remember taking a risk and trying to get the overweight kid on 2nd to steal 3rd. It was a risk, maybe not the best by-the-book move, but the particular game situation called for it. Life is full of game situations, and rarely are two of these situations exactly alike. When I was dealt the straight flush I was well ahead for the night and I felt like gambling. It paid off and so I was right. Had I lost, I would have been wrong. You deal with life's situations as they are presented based on the information available, your particular situation at the time, and the instincts of the moment. I have done very well trusting my instincts and I don't plan to stop now. Others prefer to stick with their own tried and true methods, and I respect this. But there is no absolutely right or absoutely wrong way to look at a situation. There is my way and there is your way, and both of these ways can have good points and bad points.

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 When I was dealt the straight flush I was well ahead for the night and I felt like gambling. It paid off and so I was right. Had I lost, I would have been wrong.  But there is no absolutely right or absoutely wrong way to look at a situation. There is my way and there is your way, and both of these ways can have good points and bad points.
 
 
Well put, rascal. I had a similiar situation yesterday. I was comfortably ahead(a rarity lately) and decided to "loosen-up" my play a little. The reward was a $1500 payout that i would'nt have gotten if i had made the "correct" play on the particular hand.  Although to be candid, i'm not sure that i would have quite had the cojones to drop a SF to chase for a RF. 

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[QUOTE=rascal] When I was dealt the straight flush I was well ahead for the night and I felt like gambling. It paid off and so I was right. Had I lost, I would have been wrong.  But there is no absolutely right or absoutely wrong way to look at a situation. There is my way and there is your way, and both of these ways can have good points and bad points.
 
 
Well put, rascal. I had a similiar situation yesterday. I was comfortably ahead(a rarity lately) and decided to "loosen-up" my play a little. The reward was a $1500 payout that i would'nt have gotten if i had made the "correct" play on the particular hand.  Although to be candid, i'm not sure that i would have quite had the cojones to drop a SF to chase for a RF. 

Don't fret--I see those criticisms all the time. Most players aren't as stupid as the strictly-math people would make them out to be if they don't follow "their" method, and they'll complain that you're leading "budding players" down the wrong path with your type of play during that casino visit. Look at it this way: That player (Richard Brodie) who hit those two $240,000 royals last week is guaranteed to end up losing by year's end because of his addiction to the $100 machines along with his affinity to play them by creating an "advantage play" with them. He'll end up playing thousands of hours to get to that point too--firmly establishing his attraction to high-limit play. I played just under 20 hours this year, won more than my 2007 pre-set goal, and won't play again until 2008. There ARE better ways than by-the-book....IF you know how to think and can get by the compulsion to play that the game is famous for.

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Yeah, I could have lived with Brodie's 240K royals --- 2 of them, one dealt!

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Yeah, I could have lived with Brodie's 240K royals --- 2 of them, one dealt!
 
 
It looks like Caesar's has cried uncle and downgraded that paytable. I guess Brodie must have ended up in the positive column after the 2nd royal.

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I won my $50,000 jackpot on $25 DDB Sat. night at Caesar's and I talked to the suit who supervised my handpay about that machine (the 3-credit $100 FPDW) and the royals. As usual, it isn't all that the hype and dreamers want it to be so I'll give you the truth.
 
First, even before getting any info the player wrote that he lost $150,000 before hitting the first royal. Take a guess on how many SICK hours of play that is on $300/hand when every time a $1200 or higher win was hit (in this case 4oak or higher), the machine, locked up, he had to sign the W2G log, and his personal attendant provided by Caesar's had to unlock the machine. To eliminate snags he asked for all his wins--including his royals--to just add credits to his machine and he settled up when he finally chose to leave. From the first RF picture on his blog he had 363 credits ($36,300)when he hit it. Then he said he hit four deuces twice. He left many hours after that, they locked up the machine (out-of-service), and when he came back for more the next day they loaded his machine with all his remaining credits.
 
You can see what became of those by the time he hit his 2nd royal--he had 288 remaining after hitting deuces twice and a royal. He says from the time he went in again until he was dealt his 2nd royal he was stuck $60k. He played hours more after that. Does this sound like something to be envious of? While we don't really know if he left with a profit overall from the machine--and I expect he did albeit who can tell how much after all that play--it's definitely a lesson in what NOT to do after hitting a royal. He even says he's been playing the $100 machines all over town for the past several years and this was the first royal he ever got. Think of how you would be doing at the dollar level and that happened to you. How far behind would YOU be? Good thing he created Microsoft Word.
 
The installation of the FPDW machine was not a mistake as wannabee know-it-alls are saying in articles and all over the Internet. The guy is one of the biggest players of vp in town if not the biggest, Caesar's knew that from his patronage (and obvious big losses) so they accomodated him. Why not? But it turned out SOMEONE ELSE also hit a royal on it during one of his absences when it was not locked down, so they changed the game to what I think people call NSUD.
 
 

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