Random Number Criteria

[2222A]

Does this sound like Vegas style VP Machine requirements ?

E. Once a random selection process has occurred, a video lottery terminal:
(1) Shall display an accurate representation of the randomly selected outcome; and
(2) May not make a secondary decision which affects the result shown to the player at the video
lottery terminal.

It is the Maryland Law governing our recently legalized Casino's = video poker machines. I simply cannot believe we have the same type machines as Vegas and A C. I figured Maryland lawmakers would screw it up. It appears they (we) are using Nevada's regulations.
We have IGT, Gamemaker and other manufactured games to $5.00 credit.

[shadowman]

I haven't been following the other thread, but this does not discuss the selection of each card. The "outcome" could be the entire hand is selected from a set of choices. Each card must have an equal chance of occurring to be a standard VP machine.

[BillyJoe]

I agree, Shadowman. It sounds like the entire hand, and hence the payout, is selected from a "pool" of possible hands/payouts. As I said in another post, when Seminole in Florida started offering video poker, it didn't matter how you played the hand, you were going to end up with whatever had been selected for you. You could throw away a dealt straight flush, and it would give you one on the draw anyway.  

[shadowman]

Billyjoe, this also presents an easy way to determine how the machines work. Simply start throwing away winning hands. If you keep getting them back on the draw (or a bonus payout) then you know it's not a standard VP machine.

[damule]

The following is what I posted on the other thread about this yesterday:
 

I think you're trying to twist what you're reading in the Maryland gaming regulations to fit what you want to believe. Fact: it's a video lottery terminal. Fact: it's displaying a random pre-determined outcome from a centralized computer with a stack of results that all players in the casino share whether they're playing slots or video poker. That is what a video lottery terminal is, in other words it's a class II, not a class III machine. Keep in mind, the games look and play almost identically. See above what billyjoe wrote.
There have been instances of these games (VLTs/class II) where a player holds 3 or 4 cards to a royal flush and on the draw does not complete it, however the pre-determined result was that of a royal flush pay-out. So what some machines will do is have a bonus-type event in which the non-royal flush completing drawn cards are discarded in some theatrical fashion and replaced with cards which complete the royal flush. You need to examine these games more closely and possibly fool with them abit to prove it to yourself. For instance on a single line low wager game like quarters (or even nickles if this casino has those), when you're dealt a straight, flush or full house discard one of the cards and see if the machine completes the hand with another straight, flush or full house when you hit draw. I don't recommend asking anyone who works there, as I've learned with experience they're usually the least educated with VLTs vs class III.
 
And keep in mind, although the state regulations do put the minimum payout at 87% and the maximum at 100%, class II or VLTs do not work off of paytable percentages as do class III machines. I can guarantee you due to the high state taxes on gaming revenue the casino has these games all set to around 87%.
 
 
I think this sums it up!

[2222A]

Your probably right.
From your experience, is the Maryland Lottery Controlling agency compelled to answer this question ?
I think it is misleading for the manufacturer (Here for instance under the link "Find Game Near You") to lump these 'fixed' games in with the class III in other localities.

[2222A]

FWIW
Played at .25 level. Threw away:
5- 3oak and got nothing except 1 pair.
2- Full house, 1 pair
1- Flush - nothing
Its against my will to toss anything else even though I did not hit something higher.

[2222A]

FYI:
So IGT is advertising play their VP machines in Maryland.
I found a thread 5 years back saying if the VP games were legit you would find them here:

http://www.videopoker.com/gamesNearYou/ ... ay%A0Poker

[Queens]

I typically never post on these forums, but I'll make an exception this one time to clear up some misunderstandings:

The slot and video poker games in Maryland are not central determinate, and are true class III slots, the same as you'd find in New Jersey.   The video poker games at Hollywood Casino in Perryville, Maryland have are optioned to automatically hold cards because it is a new market and there are very few experienced players. We can turn that off, but newer players seem to prefer this while they are learning. There are 64 video poker games at Hollywood Casino Perryville, most of which are multi-hand games. There are also 9 bartop VP games. Pay tables are close to what you'd find in AC.   In fact, most of the slots management at Perryville came from AC, and the games are set up similarly to what you'd find there.   There is a Spin Poker progressive poker (local) and a Five Play Poker (local) link.   Unlike AC, both progressives pay on the royal.   This will be changed to the five of a kind if a program is available.   All the games that are not progressive are multi-denom.   Regarding paytables, MD law requires that games return between 95% and 87%, However, a property can offer a paytable that returns more than 95% with permission of the lottery commission.   While all of the VP games at Hollywood Perryville return more than 95%, there are no full pay games optioned on the casino. we just can't make that pencil in a 67% tax rate.

Just because there is no full pay does not mean we can't have fun... Expect to start seeing lucky hand video poke promotions at Hollywood Perryville in the next few months.   If players like this, we'll do more!

Hope this helps.   

Good luck!..... John S. - Perryville