Yet Another Jackpot...

[FloridaPhil]

There is an old system on the Internet called Frugal Video Poker. With this system you step up and down by playing 1-2-3-4 & 5 coins depending upon your last hand's win or loss.   I tried this system for a long time and found it to be worthless.  You can't use up all your wins just to go bigger on the next hand.  If you are going to do this, you are better off playing max coins. Also, betting 2-3-4 coins is a bad bet because you are giving up too much for no gain.  If you are going to switch, I think it’s better to go from one coin to max and back.  Keep in mind that play strategy changes from one coin to max also.
My system works for me because it quadruples the amount of hands I can play with the same money.  With 4 times as many hands, you see more jackpots and odds are you are going to hit at least some with max coins. There is absolutely no relationship between the result of your last hand and what happens on the next.  What matters in my system is that you play at least some of your hands at max coins whatever criteria you use for the switch.  Also, I do not claim my system will make you a long term winner.  I say it will allow you to play longer for less money, have a more pleasurable and exciting experience and have a chance of going home with a nice jackpot.
If you have access to 100% plus games, can play 100% computer perfect all the time and have a bankroll big enough to whether any loss, forget systems and go pro.  
 

[wildman49]

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  Posted: Yesterday at 10:29pm





Please, no one play 4 coins with this system. It's like lighting money on fire.
Who is playing 4 coins? Phil you did not answer about your play for them 2 hours, do you move machines or stay at the same one? Have you ever worked with triple play, five play or ten play with this system?

[FloridaPhil]

As I stated before I never play 2-3 or 4 coins, just one or 5.   I never put more than $20 in at a time and I do switch machines a lot.  Doing this makes me feel better, but I don't really believe it has anything to do with finding a hot or cold machine.   I don't play triple play, 5 play or 10 play machines because my daily bankroll ($250) won't last long enough.   It's about a three hour round trip drive to the Hard Rock in Tampa and I don't want to kill my bankroll in 30 minutes.  My motivation is playing for as long as possible while still having a chance of breaking even or coming home with a nice jackpot.   The fact that I have been winning lately is good, but I have been very lucky and I won't always be.

[wildman49]

Thanks for all the info Phil. I am going to keep working with it as it has lowered my losses.Keep us posted and good luck!

[Vman96]

Who is playing 4 coins?



From what I read, I thought you might have. Sorry if I misunderstood.

But yeah with this system, you're best to jump from 1 all the way to 5 coins.

[olds442jetaway]

I am going to give your method another shot Phil on Double Down Stud tomorrow on either the regular Deuces wild or Deuces wild Bonus game. There are just a few of these games left at the casino and I think most people throughout the country don't have access to try them. They are old games and have been phased out for the most part. The reason I like them is you can play almost twice as many hands in the same amount of time. Also you get a win of some sort every 5 hands or so on the Deuces games. There are also a lot of 4 coin or more wins due to the doubling feature. Any hit of a straight or better unless it comes out on the last card and you haven't doubled, will give you more than a 4 coin win. I think the reason I did poorly on it the other day is I was jumping from 1 to 5 coins even on the smaller hits of less than 4 coins. This ate up the money too fast. I pushed it because I was near the end of my gaming day when I started to play it and bore the consequences. By waiting for a 4 coin or better hit before jumping up to five, you really limit your losses even if you rarely hit on the max bet of 5. I am lucky in one respect that if I hit a 4 or more coin win at the 5 coin level and push up to the 25 for one hand which is the max the machine allows, the Dealt Royal if hit after doubling pays a whopping 25k. I realize that only happens in the long run every 700k tries or so, but still the chance gets the blood pumping. Last session, although I missed, I had 2 chances at the 5 coin level which would have paid 5k. I think a 400- bankroll will be enough to play your way on this type of machine. We'll see how it goes. Finally, even if you miss the Royal, the Double Down Stud game pays big for anything better than a straight flush. There are several nice premium hands you can hit and if hit it will always be at the doubled level.

[FloridaPhil]

I can't comment on using this system when playing any video poker game other than standard single line Deuces Wild as that's the only game I feel confident with. One thing I can tell you. It's better to start off playing single coin rather than go to it after you are already in the hole for the day.  Most people go to single coin play only when they are running out of money.  When I'm down to my last few dollars, it's too easy for me to start doing crazy things in an attempt to recoup my losses. I start with single coin play because I don't want to get too far behind in the first place. It takes patience to wait until you hit a good one at max coins, but you will.  Everytime I try to boost the system to hit bigger or more often, it burns me. 
 

[olds442jetaway]

Practiced a couple of hours today on this site on the Double Down Stud game regular Deuces Wild. Stayed pretty close to even and the machine paytable at Mohegan is identical to the one here. I don't see why it wouldn't work about the same way since regular single line Deuces Draw poker returns more than your bet about once every 6 hands and the Double Down Stud game returns more than your bet about every 5 hands in the long run. One other possible benefit on playing this on Double Down Stud is the percentage penalty for hitting the Royal with one coin in is tiny compared to the penalty on draw poker. I think I will give it another shot tomorrow as posted below. The hard part is to stick with single coin play until you hit that 4 or more return times your bet. You can run through dozens and dozens of hands before getting a hit of 4 or more on single coin play. It all comes down to discipline. Hopefully, the lure of an occasional hand played at a higher level with the cost covered by the hand before will keep the fun factor alive. Having an ice cold micro brew beer next to me will help. Notice I said an meaning one. I wouldn't want to goof up and not double down when I have 4 great cards to start with.
     I also like the idea of getting paid 200 bucks for getting dealt 4 deuces on the Double Down Stud game with only 1 coin bet and doubling after you see the first 4 cards. Those dealt deuces at Mohegan have been coming in right on schedule unlike the Royals which I cannot hit anymore. I am not going to continue the Royalless post at the risk of boring everyone. Let's just say that it is close to 700k hands now on regular single line draw poker play and only 1 Royal has hit. It actually makes it easier on me now because I just assume I will never get another one again and can enjoy trying to hit the deuces quads, wild royals, and 5 of a kinds. So far all have been right on schedule for months.