Bob Dancer on Losing

[olds442jetaway]

That is why I say things like don't try this at home on my jackpot posts. Big hits are a fluke and always be. Luck is luck good or bad.....Now back to vp too.....or actually back to cutting down some branches...vp tomorrow night.

[billryan]

Selling a strategy that promises to make you money from gambling is the same as selling worthless real estate flipping programs. Setting yourself up as a hero because you spend your life gambling is wrong. That's all I have to say on that issue. Back to VP...

I'm not sure why you continue to misrepresent Bob's strategy. He doesn't promise any such thing.You know it, anyone who reads his stuff knows it.If the only way to defend your position is to misrepresent others, perhaps your position isn't worth defending.

[alpax]

[QUOTE=FloridaPhil] Selling a strategy that promises to make you money from gambling is the same as selling worthless real estate flipping programs. Setting yourself up as a hero because you spend your life gambling is wrong. That's all I have to say on that issue. Back to VP...

I'm not sure why you continue to misrepresent Bob's strategy. He doesn't promise any such thing.You know it, anyone who reads his stuff knows it.If the only way to defend your position is to misrepresent others, perhaps your position isn't worth defending.[/QUOTE]

Some people can understand what Mr. Dancer is trying to convey without spending a single penny at the LasVegasAdvisor website.

The stuff I bought for real money was solely for the purpose of learning the best expected return holds on a video poker game in a shorter amount of time. Mr. Dancer made no such promises about guaranteed winning from gambling.

[billryan]

  I know that, you know that, FloridaPhil knows that but he continues to be less that honest when he claims otherwise.

[alpax]

Phil advocates playing the best AVAILABLE game using the cheap system.---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Oh, yeah. This is an important point I have been overlooking! Since I already have the best odds, I really can step off the CS gas a bit more and pursue those full pay quads when the machine is rolling astoundingly well, as on Sunday. Did I leave $100 in the machine or what? 



I overlooked this statement by Ted.

I do not think that is the situation for Phil. It is mainly what the casino has for their Deuces Wild inventory. If the paytable is anything less than Airport/Ugly/Illinois Deuces Wild (98.91%) for quarters or half dollars, you play the C.S.

I think it was Mr. Dancer who suggested that to a certain extent. So if there was 9/7 Double Bonus or 8/5 Bonus Poker available (both returning 99.106% and 99.166% respectively) you play that since it has a greater return than Airport DW. But if a lesser game yields superior mailer package than the best game, you play that instead.

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=billryan]He doesn't promise any such thing.[/quote]He doesn't promise it, but it's inferred.  Here is the cover of one of his books.  Those are hundreds the lady is holding and isn't the name of his first book Million Dollar Video Poker?   Does she look sad because she lost a bunch of money yesterday so she could win today?  If everyone who ever made money long term playing video poker sat on the head of a pin, there would be plenty of room.  Bob Dancer himself freely admits as much, except he always says he can do it.   Haven't you ever wondered about that?   [quote=alpax]I do not think that is the situation for Phil. It is mainly what the
casino has for their Deuces Wild inventory. If the pay table is anything
less than Airport/Ugly/Illinois Deuces Wild (98.91%) for quarters or
half dollars, you play the C.S.
[/quote]Absolutely correct.  If Bill Ryan can figure out how to beat a 96% game with Bob Dancer's strategy, I want to know how.  Single coin play is much cheaper and anyone who can do math knows it.  If he would like me to post the math all over again, I will be happy to.

[alpax]

I did not know the spreading of misinformation can reach a new low.

The correct image of the Million Dollar Video Poker novel is this:



As far as what you are referring to, it is the Video Poker for Winners software that is published and sold by Action Gaming. Take Mr. Dancer out of it, he was hired as a lead designer and endorse them as the professional. You can pursue a lawsuit against Action Gaming for the pain and suffering and emotional distress that was caused from all the money you've lost over the years when you were promised to win.

About the 96% games, I think billryan will agree with me to use the following Mr. Dancer strategy: avoid it like the plague.

Mr. Dancer's solution to approaching 96% games

[FloridaPhil]

I believe you are right about the 96% games.  No way would he play such games.  However, the vast majority of small denomination VP players outside of Nevada are forced to play them or not play at all.   I proposed CS as one possible option.   If you have access to better games, you don't need CS.If Mr. Dancer wants to help people instead of knocking me he would discuss these games in detail and provide his own small denomination strategy.   I believe his input would be most helpful and appreciated.  The way it is now he only discusses his max coin strategy designed for positive games which causes even bigger loses when used on a seriously negative game.I'm done discussing Bob Dancer.   If he ever comes back to this forum, I will not interfere with his posts and will keep my opinions of him to myself.  If he drags out CS or starts personally attacking me again, I will respond.  CS is there if you need to use it.  Otherwise keep paying to play.Note: The picture in my post above is on Bob Dancer's own website www.BobDancer.com.  

[alpax]

I understand where you got the image from, you had the wrong product. I found the correct image on the same website too.

Mr. Dancer has already stated the better things you can do is save up so you can do one of two things:

1. If the nearby casino has good games available at higher denominations

2. If the nearby casino does not have higher denomination, travel to a place that has good games such as Atlantis in Reno or Ameristar St. in Charles or even the Mohegan Sun.

Both of the choices, you still have to learn about the comp system they provide and take all you can get to make the overall return 100%. Believe it or not, Mr. Dancer's high level of discipline does instill playing responsibly.

Ultimately it does not matter what other people do, you have no control over them. Each player just needs to worry about themselves.

[FloridaPhil]

I agree.