Big Pays

[Outlaw Billy D]

So are big pays more Luck or Skill? Other than basic strategy, is there really anything else you can do?

[Eduardo]

Other than basic strategy, what more would you want?

[billryan]

The more hands you play, the more big payouts you will get. Remember the joy of your first Royal, because eventually handpays become common.

[BobDancer]

The more hands you play, the more big payouts you will get. Remember the joy of your first Royal, because eventually handpays become common.

The number of hands is a factor, of course, but the total amount bet is a bigger factor.

If your total bet is $1.25, whether that is quarter single line, nickel Five Play, or 2 cent Ten Play (adding up to a dollar), on most games you will never get a hand pay --- at least at casinos where $1,200 is required for a hand pay.

If you're betting $25 a hand, you'll get a lot more handpays play $5 single-line than you will playing 5c Hundred Play, even though the total bet is the same.

For a given denomination, say 25c, you'll definitely get more handpays the more lines you play.



Insofar as the question asked by the original poster, basic strategy is NOT the strategy that is most useful in getting big jackpots. You'll get a lot more royals if you go for them rather than making the appropriate play. For example, in any version of Jacks or Better, from Qh Js Ts 6d 3c, the basic strategy play is to hold QJ. If you do that, you cannot get a royal. If you hold the inferior JT, you WILL get more royals, and also lose more money on your journey.

Insofar as skill versus luck goes, in my classes (which begin on January 8 at the South Point), I teach that in next two hours, your results are at least 80% luck. Over the next 200 hours, your results are at least 80% skill.

The 80% numbers I pulled out of by butt. My definition of skill is playing every hand computer perfectly --- and only playing when and where the game + slot club + promotions add up to more than 100%. If you do that, over time good things will happen.

[olds442jetaway]

I certainly cannot argue that point though over time can be a long time and many many hands. When i play 98.8 bonus deuces wild on the last remaining 800 for bet 1 for the royal machine that i know of at my casino, my free play which approaches .5 percent unlimited free rooms, food, shows, golf, and gifts exceed 100 percent for sure. If I play 3 lines at bet one per line, I never have trouble earning the above comps. There can be long cold streaks though. You just have to accept that in this game. Betting 2,000 bucks per hour in a cold cycle can get really expensive.

[olds442jetaway]

Just as an example, if I play 8 hours at that level, that is 16,000 bucks coin in for the session. Even without the free play, my long term cost per session is about 288 bucks. The free play brings that down to around 200 bucks. The value of food and room alone exceeds 200 bucks easily.

[Carcounter]

Remember my first handpay. A little over $1,400 on a quarter progressive at the Tropicana AC.

[Jstark]

The OP needs to define "big pay."

[FAA]

Hoping to make my first my last.

[onemoretry]

Hoping to make my first my last.

Why not go for your second after getting the first?