Game King RNG's

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Bucky
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Game King RNG's

Post by Bucky »

My question is on the Game King multiple game video poker machines, do they have separate RNG for each type of game, or do they have 1 RNG that all of the games run on?  In other words if DDB game is not hitting, and a player changed to BP would he still be using the same RNG?

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Post by cddenver »

Probably one RNG that's accessed by all games on the machine.  If each game has it's own, they're identical copies.  There isn't any special RNG coding to alter the deal/draws depending on what game you're playing, if that's what you're thinking is happening.

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Post by Bucky »

I guess what I was thinking that if I wasn't hitting on one game because it was the " time in the cycle when quads and such where not coming up", I could switch to another game on the same machine.  My question is then would the game I switched to be running on a different RNG, or would I still be in the same place in the " cycle "?

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Post by Eduardo »

There is no such cycle, so it would make no difference if you changed games, hopped to a different machine, drove to a different casino, or simply put in another quarter and played one more hand. These apparent cycles are just a series of random events.

 
Having said that, sometimes it is nice to change machines or games any way but don't fool yourself into thinking you are moving into different odds based on some RNG cycle. You have the same odds with a different view. It is easy to build superstitions when you change to a new machine and suddenly hit though. But it's just luck, plain and simple.

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Post by shadowman »

Eduardo is right on the money. At one time I wondered whether a RNG had a cycle of good periods and bad periods, so I downloaded a couple of RNGs off the web and tested them.
 
The answer to that question is yes and no. Since RNGs generate random numbers there will be, by definition, periods of differing results. However, and this is the important part, the RNG keeps running while we're playing hands. As a result we never see these predetermined periods. We see our OWN periods of randomness determined by exactly when we hit the buttons. While we stop to order a cocktail, several potential RFs just went flying by (along with all other results). Our random results will be no different (over time) then they might have been had the RNG not kept running and have no way to effect a change in luck.
 
Hope this helps. We all like to think we have "some" control over our luck. Unfortunately, the only control we have is how skillful we play. 

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Post by cddenver »

And to all that, add in that the RNG is operating continuously even when no one is actually playing the machine.

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Post by clwn2 »

HI, I have got to open up my mouth.  I am new to this forum and like it.   I think most of what is said here is valid and will apply it in the future but I have got to comment on this RNG business.  From what I have read, some of you guys are obviously very intellegent and knowledgable about this subject.  The idea I have a problem when the RNG is discussed most of you talk like it is a sin to go to another machine if yours is not paying?  Whats the use since every machine has the same probability to give a royal I should just sit right here at this machine and play all my money? 
I have 15 years experience playing video poker and this simply has not  been the case for me.  Yes,  there are times when no matter what you do you are going to lose your money regardless how perfectly you play.  But.. there are sometimes when that RNG just has your number and you cannot get anything on your particular machine.  Sometimes it helps if I switch machines and yes, even switch casinos.  I don't think all those RNG's are talking to each other, do you? 
This is just a general observation, not an attempt to be argumentative.
Facts are facts, it is not just about the odds and the math.  Time and place and environment are factors too.

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Post by clwn2 »

This should get some good reactions.  I can't wait!!

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Post by Eduardo »

I watch (real) poker tournaments on TV. Even good players can go a long long time without getting any good cards. Other times they get a lot of good hands in a row. Those are facts. But it doesn't mean the dealer is cold or that they are in the wrong seat at the table. It could be easy to draw that conclusion, especially if they take a smoke break and when they come back things turn around for them. But the truth is those patterns are just a part of the odds. I think the RNG works the same way, but I certainly enjoy the debate.

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Post by oej719 »

This should get some good reactions.  I can't wait!!

Have we met? I think I know you. Do you live in Az.?

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