If your only goal is a hand pay...

[FAA]

The illustrious members who have won big can indeed dismissively shrug off the hand pay quest. I do want the one before either pivoting to the standard max quarters routine or quitting altogether. Scottsdale indeed sounds depressing. I await any further suggestions. I once viewed casinos exclusively as cheap entertainment too, and will again. I will be soaked more with some $2.50 spins en route to the $2K. Then it's $1.25 down shift to cheap entertainment or pull the plug and "kill the AC."

[OTABILL]

Seriously, If your goal is a "Hand Pay" visit either of the two casinos run by the Salt River Pima Maricopa Indian Community in/near Scottsdale. Any win over Two Hundred Dollars, generates a hand paid "jackpot". Machine locks up, and you wait and wait for an attendant to pay you from their kangaroo pouch of money, down to the last penny. Frustrating to say the least, and no playable VP in the joint.

So they still have that in place. As I mentioned, wife and I played there years ago. It was a big pain waiting and especially since it was uncomfortable not giving the folks doing the hand pays a tip.

[FloridaPhil]

So what denomination does your dog predominantly play? Has he/she ever given your CS a go?

My dog is a high roller. It's annoying as hell.

All the hand pays I have received in the last 10 years came exactly the same way. I play quarter VP, get a big run up, up my bet and there it is. It doesn't happen very often and it's surely not a guaranteed profit maker.

I hate hand pays. I have one on my tax returns for 2018. The W-2Gs clutter up my returns and cause me to start believing VP is profitable. For me, that's when the trouble starts. These days I stick with quarters.

I once hit a $4,000 hand pay playing single coin quarter CS. I hit an incredible series of hands. I kept upping my bet and finally walked away when I hit a dollar royal. If you play VP long enough, anything can and will happen. You can win a million dollars in six months if you're lucky enough. Keeping the money is a lot harder.

[Tedlark]

Ask a simple question.....

The low hanging fruit must have been a bit over ripe.

[billryan]

Ask a simple question.....

The low hanging fruit must have been a bit over ripe.

Simple solutions for simple minds.

[FAA]

Someone started this thread, on a half baked mistaken premise, for the express purpose of bashing me. Great use of time. Kick any dogs lately?
I love FP RUB technique. Run Up and Bump. Low rolling is boring, as expected. The key is trusting myself to regress if it doesn't work.

[Eduardo]

FAA, I sincerely was not intending to bash you. I was looking for a good analysis of what would get you a handpay for the least money. I was, however, mistaken about your proposed bet as I tried to point out.

As I said, 10 coin quarters seems like a fine approach. When I thought you were playing 10 play, I was sure you could do better.

Sorry for any misunderstanding.

[pokerpokerpoker]

With a HP cycle of around 1000 hands, $1 TDB Dream Card is the easiest way to hit a HP while staying at $1 denomination. It can be played single hand on the 5 Star machines. And, it would be at least a $2k handpay unlike say $5 DDB, where $1250 is most likely.

But, the variance is outta sight on this game. I've had many HPs on it, as well as many horrific bust-outs - like dropping $2k in an hour or so.

This year, because of the tax changes, I am playing more Bonus Poker Deluxe. Even at the $2 level, the only taxable is a royal (assuming single hand games).

[FAA]

I accept the apology. I only play the low variance, low stress stuff. JOB, BP, rare DW. The recent quad Aces was a jolt at $240. Eight times that would levitate me.

[olds442jetaway]

Yep the new tax changes really suck for vp players and any gamblers for that matter who write off the losses on their Federal returns. I think I posted about them here months and months ago. Well, based on my 2017 play and 2018 play, the casino lost 2/3 of the money they made on me in 2017 and hopefully, for 2019, they will lose 90percent of what they made on me in 2017. The casinos could easily fix part of the problem by adjusting their paytables. I dont think they will however and probably at this point dont realize many gamblers will be changing their style. It wont hit nany until they do their 2018 returns though. I dont think too many changed their style yet. All the casinos have to do is pay a bit more for some hits like straight flushes and less for the hands that would trigger a w2g i know they wont do it though. They will just keep pulling vp and putting in mindless penny machines with minimum bets of 50 cents to a buck ir two